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Challenges Facing the Watchtower Org

by eric356 in

ive been thinking about the future of the watchtower organization and the challenges it faces in coming decades.

its difficult to address the issue without allowing personal feelings affect the analysis.

many people seem to think that the society will collapse fairly soon, based mostly on the fact that the person dislikes the leadership or cant understand how others can believe the doctrine.

Zapper_1

You certainly do make some interesting points, eric, but you may be overlooking the fact that electronic media are not nearly as permanent as you might think. I recall reading somewhere on the web (sorry, I can't remember where) that CDs and DVDs can't be expected to retain data for more than a decade or so. Magnetic media are even more volatile. The only reason they seem to retain data as long as they do is because our computers constantly refresh them. This means that printing on paper is probably still the best means of long term storage. I suspect that the WT may be aware of this. While I agree that the Watchtower needs to change its approach, I don't expect it to start using TV any time soon. It's too expensive for the returns they would get (and we all know how stingy the WT is!). That only leaves the Internet, but that would just heap another level of hypocrisy on the WT because of the way it badmouths it. Of course, we all know that hypocrisy is routine for the "Brooklyn 12" (or is it 13), don't we? Zap

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Challenges Facing the Watchtower Org

by eric356 in

ive been thinking about the future of the watchtower organization and the challenges it faces in coming decades.

its difficult to address the issue without allowing personal feelings affect the analysis.

many people seem to think that the society will collapse fairly soon, based mostly on the fact that the person dislikes the leadership or cant understand how others can believe the doctrine.

Zapper_1

You certainly do make some interesting points, eric, but you may be overlooking the fact that electronic media are not nearly as permanent as you might think. I recall reading somewhere on the web (sorry, I can't remember where) that CDs and DVDs can't be expected to retain data for more than a decade or so. Magnetic media are even more volatile. The only reason they seem to retain data as long as they do is because our computers constantly refresh them. This means that printing on paper is probably still the best means of long term storage. I suspect that the WT may be aware of this. While I agree that the Watchtower needs to change its approach, I don't expect it to start using TV any time soon. It's too expensive for the returns they would get (and we all know how stingy the WT is!). That only leaves the Internet, but that would just heap another level of hypocrisy on a stack that is already way too tall. Zap

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In these Last Days (of mine) High Anxiety. Critical Times. Hard to deal with

by lil.lady.03 in

i really have been trying to fade quickly and with little amount of noise or rukus!.

this past month has proven to be one of the most stressfuly ever.. my mom and i are 'discussing' just about everyday me not going to the meetingsand my reasons why.. she keeps pushing me to go.

even tonight asked me to go with her to her.

Zapper_1

Hi lil.lady,

You stated that you are an adult and indicated that you are going to school. This suggests that you might be financially independent. If so, why not find a place of your own and move out? You don't have to tell anyone where you are going or give give anyone any contact information, including your zealous mother or hypocritical father. I know, it's an extra expense, but isn't your peace of mind and resultant quality of life worth it?

Regards,

Zap

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As a Witness - What did you Notice in How Elders Got Appointed ?

by flipper in

jw
friends

i found it amazing being raised in the witnesses to see exactly who got appointed sometimes as an elder.

it seemed that the criteria in my opinion had more to do with getting 10 hours a month in field service, answering at meetings, carrying microphones as a ministerial servant, or handling the magazine or literature counter !

in doing these " functions " and attending meetings on a regular basis - a man was thought to be considered " spiritually strong " and qualify to be an elder and serve on judicial committees judging people's personal problems.

Zapper_1

I've often wondered how an individual's time spent in Field Service or handling a microphone can be considered "spirituality". I always thought that the fruit of the spirit were defined/described in Gal 5:22-23. Of course, I'm not a JW and never have been so maybe I don't understand the Bible correctly because the FDS hasn't explained it to me.

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As a Woman Have your Attitudes Towards Men Changed After Exiting JW's ?

by flipper in

jw
friends

being raised in the jehovah's witnesses cult from birth - i saw many females mistreated, abused in a demeaning manner whether subtly or right out in the open.

before congregation meetings in the 1960's even as a boy i saw an elder talk rudely to his wife as if she was a child- and the wife put her head down in sadness.

i saw jw men take themselves way too seriously as alleged " heads of their house " - because the wt society pushed the headship issue into every witness marriage.

Zapper_1

There's always tom terrific, mrsj.

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As a Woman Have your Attitudes Towards Men Changed After Exiting JW's ?

by flipper in

jw
friends

being raised in the jehovah's witnesses cult from birth - i saw many females mistreated, abused in a demeaning manner whether subtly or right out in the open.

before congregation meetings in the 1960's even as a boy i saw an elder talk rudely to his wife as if she was a child- and the wife put her head down in sadness.

i saw jw men take themselves way too seriously as alleged " heads of their house " - because the wt society pushed the headship issue into every witness marriage.

Zapper_1

I don't know about others, Mrs. Jones, but I sure miss seeing you an Yahoo.

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Ray Franz has had a stroke

by coffee_black in

jw
friends

just setting the record straight.

there is another thread that notes a claim on wiki that said that ray has died.. he had a stroke yesterday, and is in the hospital.

he is still alive.

Zapper_1

Very sorry to hear about this. Ray was a real source of support to Ex-JWs. Thanks for letting us know.

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Are the JWs a dangerous cult?

by cyberjesus in

is it a matter of just biblical interpretation?

are they just a little lost?

or are they really a dangerous cult?

Zapper_1

Yes. Of course JWs is a cult!

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Consolation September 1945: Refusing blood does not bear witness...

by Designer Stubble in

"consolation" september 1945 contains the most contrary quote you can imagine: "when we lose our life because we refuse inoculations, that does not bear witness as a justification of jehovah's name.

god never issued regulations which prohibit the use of drugs, inoculations or blood transfusions.

it is an invention of people, who, like the pharisees, leave jehovah's mercy and love aside.

Zapper_1

I've always said that JWs are Pharisees. Whited sepulchres just like in the Bible.

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Blood Transfusions 101 for JW's

by moshe in

blood transfusions 101 for jw's-.

a blood transfusion will not save the life of a starving man = a blood transfusion is not food = a blood transfusion does not violate the ot law given by god to the jews to, "not eat blood" and that was later reiterated by the jewish christians to the gentile christians = the watchtower no-blood transfusion doctrine is a manmade abomination that kills innocent people = the watchtower society is guilty of promoting manslaughter.. .

Zapper_1

I've always said tha JWs are Pharisees. Whited sepulchres!

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