the wts teaches that when an individual physically dies he is 'aquitted' or 'set free' from sin.
the verse they use to support this view is romans 6:7 which reads: .
7 for he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin.. .
Also my viewpoint is this,
The preaching work has to be done because it was a command from the Christ. But people should always remember that Jehovah is a most loving, kind and gracious God. There is nothing we can do to earn back our good standing with God. The life he gives is free, that means we can do all the preaching, teaching, learning, promoting, arguing, loving in the entire world and still could not pay for the gift God has presented to us all.
"If its free, then its free"
the wts teaches that when an individual physically dies he is 'aquitted' or 'set free' from sin.
the verse they use to support this view is romans 6:7 which reads: .
7 for he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin.. .
You said,
"Since the JWs take the death spoken here as literal (instead of viewing it as 'death in Christ' which the context of the verse really shows) they are left with a big doctranal problem."
The scriptures does say the wages sin pays is death. Anyone who dies in Christ will obtain life not death. That's why their is the symbolic baptism. If you are committed to doing the will of Almighty God and the Christ then you are living yet you may still die!
If Jesus only dies for Adams sin (as they teach) and that we pay for our own sins when we die, how do those that enter 'the new system' without ever dying pay for their sins?
As far as Almighty God is concerned if you are born in sin and do not exercise faith in the Christ you are already dead, though you are still alive. The scriptures says Jesus died for many not just because of Adams sins. Adam is dead and has been dead for eons of years now. He had not lived long enough to see the fulfillment of edenic prophecy. Plus he forfeited his perfect life by acting disobediently. Those whom had not had the opportunity to experience a life of human perfection from God's standpoint will be able to do so in the future by exercising faith in Jesus sacrifice. Jesus sacrifice covers over a multitude of sins, so people will be able to cross over into the new system with a clean conscience that God has forgiven them on the basis of Jesus sacrifice. But Jesus sacrifice is so precious that even those whom did not exercise faith in the Christ will receive a resurrection of judgement with an opportunity to receive everlasting life.
how do jw's get around this verse?
john 1:3 - "3through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
" i honestly can't remember and can't find anything in the pubs that deals with it.
Okay VanillaMocha,
Jehovah created The Word (Jesus), Jesus created all other things.
Jehovah resurrected Jesus from death, Jesus will resurrect all others who died.
Easy as 1,2,3
how do jw's get around this verse?
john 1:3 - "3through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
" i honestly can't remember and can't find anything in the pubs that deals with it.
Jehovah made Jesus (The Word), Jehovah & Jesus made all other things!
Jehovah resurrected Jesus, Jehovah thru Jesus resurrects the righteous and unrighteous!
Easy as 1,2,3
no thanks.. disgusting!.
Abandoned,
Fyi, I never said in any comment that I was perfect. But I bet you think you are!
no thanks.. disgusting!.
Abandoned,
I think you should really abandon twisting peoples words around. Contrary to your beliefs there are people out here who are purely evil. Whom do not care about life or other people.
no thanks.. disgusting!.
They way some of them act, they should be stoned!!!!!!!!!
Then there won't be anymore juvenile deliquency!!!!!!!
i want to see if i imagined it!.
mad.
I attended the Memorial at the KH in my area and it was jammed packed. I had to stand by the entrance.
who was the injured party?
in the garden of eden when both adam and his wife, eve rebelled against instructions from their landlord, jehovah.. "in the day you eat of it (the fruit) you shall surely die.".
adam and eve ate of it.
Hello Scully,
There are no humans on earth that are exempt from the sin trait that plagued Adam and Eve. We are all sentenced to death. It is an inherited trait that was passed onto all his offspring.
Scully you can't ignore the fact that mankinds physical structure was made to live forever. Our cell structure is made to reproduce and repair itself. Scientist are still baffled by this occurrence.
As for Jehovah being the Landlord of the earth, he has furnished us with the use of the property. That's not the problem, its how we use the property that puts us in danger. It isn't the Landlords responsibility to clean the apartment or interrogate the residents inside the home. Jehovah has taken care of the earth, so he has done his part.
Now as far as the sufferings and injustice is concerned, satan and humans are responsible for all the other issues mankind is experiencing today. If the only sentence we were given is death from Jehovah's standpoint, then why do we have so many other issues besides death. Usually death comes at the end of suffering. Where did all the suffering come from? Who has mankind killing and discriminating against his own brother? I tell you, the same one who told Adam and Eve that they can be like God by eating the forbidden fruit!
"Satan the devil"
I can understand you all having beef with the WTS, but to take your frustrations out on Jehovah is ridiculous. If he was all that bad, he would not let his own beloved son die to save us!
i'm being forced to go back to the kingdom hall on sunday because my wife demands i should do it.
i have a wife.
i should have been more honest with you.
I have a question? Are you still committing adultery with your girlfriend?
