heathen,
In my Bio that is the first thing I say. Is there a point?
" educators in democratic societies teach people how to think, but propagandists tell them what to think.
most educators are willing to change their opinions on the basis of new evidence, but propagandists ignore evidence that contradicts them.
educators present all sides of an issue and encourage debate.
heathen,
In my Bio that is the first thing I say. Is there a point?
" educators in democratic societies teach people how to think, but propagandists tell them what to think.
most educators are willing to change their opinions on the basis of new evidence, but propagandists ignore evidence that contradicts them.
educators present all sides of an issue and encourage debate.
" Educators in democratic societies teach people how to think, but propagandists tell them what to think. Most educators are willing to change their opinions on the basis of new evidence, but propagandists ignore evidence that contradicts them. Educators present all sides of an issue and encourage debate. Propagandists build the strongest possible case for their views and discourage discussion."
World book Encyclopedia CD Rom
I was wondering about something. As I understand it as a Jehovah Witness one was to "WOJ" as opposed to seeking justice. I also understand that to mean leave it to the Elders and Headquarters. Now that you are free or at least out of the circle as defined by the WT how do you feel about things like freedom and justice? Is justice something that you would seek to right a wrong? The Elders were the arbitrators of all things before. Whom do you turn to now? Does it bother you to make your own decisions? Do you still have the aversion to politics and talking about world issues without the intent of indoctrination? Would you try to dodge a draft? Does it bother you to either stand alone or with could you support a Nation? (Sorry I have about 100 more questions but I will stop there) I have carried this with me since as long as I can remember. For me it represents my love of freedom, individuality, the right to seek justice, and responsibility to myself and others to be the best that I can be.
MY CREED
I DO NOT CHOSE TO BE A COMMON MAN. iT IS MY RIGHT TO BE UNCOMMON -- IF I CAN.
I SEEK OPPORTUNITY-- NOT SECURITY. I DO NOT WISH TO BE A KEPT CITIZEN, HUMBLED AND DULLED BY HAVING THE STATE LOOK AFTER ME.
I WANT TO TAKE THE CALCULATED RISK--TO DREAM AND BUILD-- TO FAIL AND SUCCEED.
I REFUSE TO BARDER INCENTIVE FOR A DOLE. I PREFER THE CHALLENGES OF LIFE TO THE GUARANTEED EXISTENCE-- THE THRILL OF FULFILLMENT TO THE CALM STATE OF UTOPIA.
"I WILL NOT TRADE FREEDOM FOR BENEFICE-- NOR MY DIGNITY FOR A HANDOUT. I WILL NEVER COWER BEFORE ANY MASTER--NOR BEND TO ANY THREAT.
IT IS MY HERITAGE TO STAND ERECT, PROUD AND UNAFRAID--TO THINK AND ACT FOR MYSELF--ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF MY CREATIONS AND TO FACE THE WORLD BOLDLY, AND SAY--
"THIS I HAVE DONE."
I have been told that my admiring this creed is due to my pride, maybe it is. I however think that God would expect nothing less, and one cannot go against the will of God.
has anybody got any hard evidence that asking for something, through prayer, actually gives them what they were asking for?.
jesus promised to give anything to them that asked.
have you asked for something (in prayer), but it hasn't been given?.
Thanks. That means more than you know. But according to the Witnesses, what happened to me doesn't count. Why? I don't have 2 eyewitnesses. Does God feel the same way?
Aw Tex,
You are so welcome I only wish I could say the words that could make this less of a burden. I do want to say the following;
The Jehovah Witnesses are fucked in the head! They could not find thier ass with a roadmap! If you put what they do in perspective whom they service is quite clear. But their followers could not be more blind if they poked thier own eyes out. I believe what they do to children is criminal. If they want to live in a world of fear and rape and skulldugery that is thier business. But, I would like to see more kids sue thier parents for emotional distress. Their only crime is being born to these jerk offs. If you were my son I promise that I would not abandon you. If even my father raped you God might have mercy I would not.
Look deep inside your own heart. Ask yourself in that place inside you if you think that it was your fault. You were a child. You should have been protected by the bastard that did that to you. He betrayed you and God. I would say the religion as well but they are more concerned about their god like right to pardon than justice. They suck eggs!
We have choices in what we want to do in this world. That means that we can become someone satan fears or someone even christ would admire. When I am angry even a the devil is in fear. But I also have a heart that can be as helpful as any angel. We need to look more at the horizion and each other for help. We need to stop looking up for answers to problems that we know are clearly wrong.
there have been many postings regarding the possible war with iraq.
there are many strong apposing views, as to be expected.. i personally am going to thank all those who are in the military; my hat is off to you, and i respect what you do, and i am very thankful.
you are the ones that must go out there and defend our freedoms.. i don't think most people desire war, but sometimes there seems to be little choice.
Never, Never, never, believe any war will be smooth and easy, or that anyone who embarks on the strange voyage can measure the tides and hurricanes he will encounter. The Statesman who yields to war fever must realize that once the signal is given, he is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events.
-Winston Churchill.
Every gun that is fired, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and those that are not fed, those that are cold and not clothed...This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from an iron cross.
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
just heard on the news the spanish navy got a tip from us intelligence and with that info seized a north koran ship loaded with 12 scud missiles on its way to yemen, with a final destination of iraq or iran.
look like bush called it correctly, an axis of evil indeed.. .
freeman edited by - freeman on 10 december 2002 18:49:40.
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Freedom469,
this is proof that Sadamed did not have those ones to load and launch...Yet
there have been many postings regarding the possible war with iraq.
there are many strong apposing views, as to be expected.. i personally am going to thank all those who are in the military; my hat is off to you, and i respect what you do, and i am very thankful.
you are the ones that must go out there and defend our freedoms.. i don't think most people desire war, but sometimes there seems to be little choice.
I know that many people have died so that I can raise my children in a peace filled land Path. It (lack of violence) is not everywhere in the US by far. But step by step we loose the common sense principles that make us great. I fight for them. Like in Virginia a CCP is a given to all law abiding citizens, it's not a question. Crime is of the lowest in the Nation. Take LA where only movie stars and politians get them and look at what it does, crime is ramped. Some things are worth fighting for, some things are worth dying for. Peace is better. But peace at any cost is not freedom. At least that peace is to high a price for me. America is not attacked because most Governments know what will happen. And, when they are in trouble it is America who people turn to for help. Maybe today that is not your Country, but I for one think that American Super power politics (With the UN) beat out the alternatives. The thing is my patriotism does not ignore that there are clear areas that need to be improved upon.(That does not even begin to underscore what I mean)
But to some husband or wife or child back home your life is worth more than politics.
Yes Path it is. But conflict is sometimes not avoidable. The dubs in my life made it crystal clear. They see no reason why anyone should have a gun in public. I explained that criminals unfortunatly have them remember the Texas restaurant. And there was a Mcdonalds I remember. (And more.) I explained that many crimes are prevented by armed civilians. Which he said "YA BUT THEN YOU ARE TAKING THE LAW INTO YOUR OWN HANDS!" My response was yes but if you were in the restaurant and were the next to be shot and I stopped the criminal by killing him I would save your live. He said "SO WHAT THAT DOESN'T MATTER!" (It would matter to me, but hey I am kinda selfish that way.)
The National Defense issue is the same thing; Only bigger. Iraq will not be much of a concern. Do you think that the UN is wrong?
Blondie,
Isn't a better answer to
Where are you?
Where are you?
(Added) The answer you gave to my question is my prayer to you.
Edited by - Iwasyoungonce on 10 December 2002 16:44:37
just a poll for today:.
which is worse, the j'dubs or the mormons (moroni)????
in my opinion both are pretty screwed in the head.
Dubs want to control your head more and break up families.
Morons contol you physically more but centralize strong family.
It does not matter though. ALL authoritarian contol groups hate me. They see my not letting them contol me as pride. 2000 years ago a guy had the same problem.
after having two beautiful daughters a couple decided to have one last try for a son.
nine months later out came a little baby boy.
but the father was disappointed.
After having two beautiful daughters a couple decided to have one last try for a son. Nine months later out came a little baby boy. But the Father was disappointed. "He is so ugly. Have you been screwing around on me?" He asked his wife. She looked at the distraught Father and said "Not this time."
how many angels can fit on the head of a pin?
As many as wants to.