"I think soldiers do a nasty job that not alot of people would want to do"
I AGREE PATH AND THAT I WHY I SIMPLY SAY THANK YOU TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES.
There are times when war is necessary.
UNFORTUNATLY YOU ARE RIGHT PATH. WITH CIVILIZATION COMES WAR. IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE WORKED FOR UNITY OF PURPOSE MORE AND UNITY OF IDEOLOGY LESS.
I would assume a good soldier is a man that follows orders well and does not question and that is a mentality that will never sit well with me.
THAT IS NOT TRUE PATH. THAT MAKES FOR GOOD CANNON FODDER. I CAN AGREE THOUGH THAT MENTALITY OF NOT HAVING THE ABILITY TO QUESTION WOULD NOT SET WELL WITH ME EITHER. IT WOULD SCARE ME IF THE GUY NEXT TO ME HAD THAT MENTALITY.
To kill when ordered to without having the luxury of reason is something I personally could never conscientiously subject myself to.
AND THAT IS WHY THE BRAIN WASHING THAT DOES IN FACT GO ON IN THE ARMED FORCES IS NOT LIKE THAT OF A CULT. YOU KNOW THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO TO YOU. THUS I WOULD NOT JOIN THE SERVICE IN PEACE TIMES. BUT IF I WERE 18 WOULD I DO IT NOW? I MIGHT, I PROBABLY WOULD. THESE GUYS PUT THEMSELVES IN HARMS WAY BECAUSE THEY ARE HEROS. PEOPLE WHO HAVE FAMILY IN THE ARMED FORCES HAVE A UNITY THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE FAMILY IN BERKLY DON'T SHARE.
I think soldiers are often the pawns of men that live in ivory towers
ARE YOU SAYING THAT PRESIDENT BUSH DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE ARMED FORCES? IF SO I COMPLETLY DISAGREE. IF NOT THEN DON'T BE GENERAL ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT.
Soldiers on every side are just doing what they are told and are buying into the propaganda of their leaders that are safe in some bunker somewhere.
WHAT PROPAGANDA ARE YOU REFERING TO? I HEAR THAT WORD HERE A LOT. BUT HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THINGS OF OUR CHOICE WITH IN REASON. WE CAN DO RESEARCH WITH IN REASON ON ANY TOPIC. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO AS HIGH AN EDUCATION AS WE WISH TO STRIVE FOR. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT AS A COUNTER TO PROPAGANDA? HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AMERICAN SOLDIERS. NOT EVERY GOVERNMENTS SOLDIERS ARE THE SAME. NOT EVERY COUNTRY GIVES PEOPLE A CHOICE IN PEACE TIMES.
One can glorify war and the men that die, and there are times if it should come down to it that this is an honorable death. But I think too many times too many men and women and children are dying needlessly and all the patriotic bullshit will not bring them back.
THIS STATEMENT IS JUST PLAIN RUDE AND IN MY OPINION LOWERS THE VALUE OF ALL INVOLVED. SO MANY HERE LOVE THE MILK AND THE HONEY BUT CAN NOT EVEN HAVE THE COMMON CURTESY OF A SIMPLY THANK YOU.
Am I the only one here who sees a major difference between being patriotic and being a nationalist?
(and the caps are not yelling the icon bar did not come up and I did not want to say "path says" all the time.)