six and fosl (the fruit of six's loins) will be visiting nyc between dec 27 and jan 1 (fosl's b-day present).. please share your thoughts on where to go, what to see, what to do.. i'd love to meet up with any nyc apostates as well.
i know we all make mistakes but did you ever really hurt someone while you were a jw, because of sticking to their darn rules?
did you ever, even as it was happening, feel selfrighteous?.
it is something that i have been thru over and over in my head and i have forgiven myself for it, but i can never make it right with the person i hurt.. my dad was an elder , very self righteous, he taught me well, i did what ever he said and acted the way he told me too.
me and my man are off on our very first holidays tomorrow (saturday 14th december).
we are going to spend 7 wonderful nights down the coast about 2 hours from melbourne.
i am really looking forward to having a break.. the only down side is that i will probably not be back on the board until january 2nd when i am back at work .
now that i have shaken of the stupor of being a cloned wittness, of 20 yearsi find it very hard to decide what do i do now.. i know that man has a built inherent motivation to worship i havenot been active for the past four years but i still beleive in a creator ,of sorts loving caring compasionate ,with a host of other qualitys,as seen, am i alone in the woods with my thoughts,.
i will willingly share my experiencess for all to see ,but i refuse to get involved with any man made organization again, even the scriptures warn us not to put our trust in any man ,i took this to heart when first attending meetings, i decided that all my children should have a trade,to have a worthwhile type of employment not to go to bethel, as somemost familys want for there children ,and not to become a window cleaner as most of the lazy brothers i knew jumped on this bandwagon hence window cleaners lead to perverts, you know the scene peeping toms up the ladders and wammo,peering through bedroom windows ,therfore is this the first steps to being paedophilia in later life ,.
i beleive that the youngsters should be baptized around age of 30 years of age ,why do you dissagree with me can you see the trouble & problems faced by youngsters today,jesus was 30 years old when he got baptized so i beleive,why have the society gone against the scriptures & example of jesus,do we follow jesus example or do you worship the society.
We spoke brielfy on chat the other day. Stay strong, leaving the organization is not the end it is a begining.
You did well in instilling these values in your children. If by retaining your faith in your creator brings you a sense comfort than continue to do so. It is yours to own.
>from: [email protected]>to: [email protected]>subject: the end of apostates >date: mon, 09 dec 2002 17:59:18 > >all apostates are liars and deceivers.
jehovah will punish all those who do not turn back to his earthly organisation.
child abuse does not exist with his organisation nor is it covered up.
i used to get into trouble for making light of the these phrases that some elders have told me are to be used only gods people.
lol that you all may know maybe:.
"well, brother that is very "commendable," just before the meeting ends the po says to those in attendance "brothers the time left is reduced," i once heard a co say to those seated during one of his talks "well now, we don't want to die at armageddon now do we, well of course not.
"now the works of the flesh are manifest and they are... drunken bouts, revelries, and things like these... those who practise such things will not inherit god's kingdom" (galatians 5:19-21) .
it's 6 months since i disappeared from the dub scene but the elders finally tracked me down!
thing is i so wanna be dfd, i wanna move on with my life... but i need (for personal reasons) to leave the jws in crazy-style .
i used to get into trouble for making light of the these phrases that some elders have told me are to be used only gods people.
lol that you all may know maybe:.
"well, brother that is very "commendable," just before the meeting ends the po says to those in attendance "brothers the time left is reduced," i once heard a co say to those seated during one of his talks "well now, we don't want to die at armageddon now do we, well of course not.
