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  MY JC - I AM SO SICK

  by rebel in

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  i have never tried to hurt anyone in my life.

  i have always tried to love others from my own childhood upbringing.. i have been treated like a traitor.

  everything i said was twisted.

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  rebel

  Thank you all so much for your support.

  I am going to visit my sister up north for a couple of weeks - I work from home a lot so work won't be a problem.

  All I can say is, if there is a God, He can look down on this forum and see the finest bunch of people ever! You are all so ready to help, love, encourage and build up. Isn't that supposed to be found at the KH? Well, it isn't. It is right here, with people like you who don't judge or make out you're something you're not. You are all pure diamonds and I love you.

  Talk soon

  xxRozalyn
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  MY JC - I AM SO SICK

  by rebel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have never tried to hurt anyone in my life.

  i have always tried to love others from my own childhood upbringing.. i have been treated like a traitor.

  everything i said was twisted.

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  rebel

  I have never tried to hurt anyone in my life. I have always tried to love others from my own childhood upbringing.

  I have been treated like a traitor. Everything I said was twisted. Any good motives I have were twisted anf perverted. I hate these people for what they have done to me. They promised me so much, and gave me nothing. I am angry - but not sure what I am angry at.

  I feel pretty sick and need to go away to lick my wounds.

  I love you all

  xxR
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  My JC

  by rebel in

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  2. friends

  .....has been changed for the third (!!!!!

  ) time to friday 11th july.

  apparently, there were no elders available on the previous days so i just have to fit in.. wish me luck!.

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  Thank you all so much for your replies. I have taken on board all the comments.

  I know that you may think I am mad giving the date of my JC, but I was already 'outed' as posting on this board by a sister in my cong some months back. She told my husband who I was (Rebel) etc. However, my husband knows I post on an 'apostate' site but has not told the elders. I admit, he thinks I do not bother with this board much anymore (little does he know) but he still stays silent to the BOE. He is so petrified of me being DFd and dying at the big A, that's all he thinks about. He is really well-and-truly brainwashed and cannot accept any of my thoughts or doubts. He doesn't want to hear them. I don't want to lose him and I really don't know what to do. I get really angry sometimes and I feel I don't care what happens. Then I talk to hubby and he makes me feel so guilty - I don't want to hurt him. I know how badly it will reflect on him if I am DFd.

  My friend, who mentioned my comments to the elders isn't trying to stir up trouble either. She is a really nice person and is really worried about me. She says she would be blood-guilty if she keeps quiet about my doubts???? I do understand her - I would have probably felt the same 5 years ago - but it really is stupid. She is incapable of thinking for herself - she takes all her problems to the elders. It is so sad.

  The WTS does not have a monopoly on God. They do not own him or JC or the Bible. Why shouldn't I be able to voice my opinion on certain scriptures without being ostracized? They give their view on scriptures, and I give mine - what's the problem? I am baffled! I know I shouldn't be - the elders and my husband are a bunch of control freaks - but I am still at a loss as to what to do. I don't want to go to my JC and lie that I didn't say this or that - that will be making my friend out to be a liar - she isn't! I did voice some doubts to her - I know now it was unwise and I never discuss anything with anyone anymore - but she was a close friend, someone I have known for years. We have been through a lot together. Stupid me for letting my guard down!

  Love to all

  xxR
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  My JC

  by rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  .....has been changed for the third (!!!!!

  ) time to friday 11th july.

  apparently, there were no elders available on the previous days so i just have to fit in.. wish me luck!.

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  .....has been changed for the THIRD (!!!!!) time to Friday 11th July. Apparently, there were no elders available on the previous days so i just have to fit in.

  Wish me luck!

  I know that a close friend (who is a JW with doubts) has mentioned to the elders that I dispute 144,000 as literal, etc etc etc. She didn't mean to gossip, but has a big mouth and I guess it came out in conversation. They are accusing me of apostasy. I have NEVER spoken to anyone about my doubts, apart from my husband. Aside from the mention of 144,000 as above, I don't go around trying to draw people off to join my own little cult. I have my own views and they are my views. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING to warrant disfellowshipping. These guys are creeps.

  xxR
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  Barbie Update.

  by Englishman in

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  2 weeks to go!

  here's the likely guest list so far: .

  trucker .

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  rebel

  By the time the barbie comes round, I will probably be a disfellowshipped person Will you guys still want to associate with me?

  xxR
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  new book: Jehovah's Witnesses for Dummies

  by Ravyn in

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  ok---so should i just leave it blank or try to write something between the cover pages?.

  ravyn

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  ScoobySnax,

  I am afraid DanTheMan is spot on! What do you say????????

  xxR
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  Are observers allowed on Judicial Committee ? (WT Letter)

  by caspian in

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  2. friends

  according to the pay attention book no observers are allowed.

  how ever please note what a paragraph from the following letter says.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.

  to all circuit and district overseers may 6 2002 page 3 para 2.. assisting elders with judicial matters.. while it is best for a travelling overseer not to serve on judicial committees, he can assist by being an advisor when needed.

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  But if I don't go, my husband will go mad! He thinks I am being too opinionated as it is - this will only make it worse.

  PLUS - if I don't go, I will be disfellowshipped in my absence. I have already been told this by someone else from another congregation. I can't win either way.

  xxR
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  Do you think the BIBLE is complete ? is it possible some books are missing

  by run dont walk in

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  i mentioned this on a thread,.

  now let's say for the sake of arguement, that the bible is not complete, maybe missing a couple books or maybe just some chapters and verses.. would this throw off the supposed timeline of the jw's, for example, their 1914 theory, creative days, lenghth of a day, anything to do with dates or time related.. it seems to me that the watchtower spends a lot of time coming up with years of importance.. if the bible is incomplete, how can they be sure of any calculations at all ???.

  is the bible complete ???.

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  SS,

  "Check out the other stuff"

  Please let me know what the 'other stuff' is and I will check it out. I am getting a bit tired with the same old story from the Bible - I want to know what else is out there.

  xxR
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  Are observers allowed on Judicial Committee ? (WT Letter)

  by caspian in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to the pay attention book no observers are allowed.

  how ever please note what a paragraph from the following letter says.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.

  to all circuit and district overseers may 6 2002 page 3 para 2.. assisting elders with judicial matters.. while it is best for a travelling overseer not to serve on judicial committees, he can assist by being an advisor when needed.

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  I still disagree, Minimus.

  They do what they do because people go along with it. It only takes one person to say 'Enough is enough!', and they will start to take notice. I am not going down without a fight.

  xxR
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  Are observers allowed on Judicial Committee ? (WT Letter)

  by caspian in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to the pay attention book no observers are allowed.

  how ever please note what a paragraph from the following letter says.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.

  to all circuit and district overseers may 6 2002 page 3 para 2.. assisting elders with judicial matters.. while it is best for a travelling overseer not to serve on judicial committees, he can assist by being an advisor when needed.

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  But they won't let me. I tried to postpone it, but they said, what with Twickenham coming up, they were limited for time. If I don't meet with them, apparently they will DF me, which is unfair.

  Thanks for caring, Sandy, and of course I will keep you up to date with what happens. My JC is 8th July at 7pm.

  xxR