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  Are You in a Position to Help JWs and Ex-JWs???

  by Prisca in

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  how many of us here are in the position to help jws seeking answers to their doubts and questions, as well as ex-jws who may be wondering if they've made the right decision?do you feel you have the resources to answer their questions on jw doctrines?how about providing emotional and/or spiritual help?and if you are in the position to do so, would you?.

  i often wonder just how many people are out there, jws and ex-jws alike, who need someone to talk to about their jw experiences, to ask questions and find assurance.

  how many of them are unaware that there are people available to help them?

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  rebel

  Prisca,

  Brilliant post. I would also join/support any group that exposes these cowards and their hateful, cultish lies.

  I am not sure what form it would take. I live in London and would like to start my own group, having meetings for people who have escaped their evil clutches. I am not sure how it could be done, though. Many people would be too scared to join this sort of group for fear of being 'outed' (if they are fading gradually) plus the pressure it would put on them to stand up in public. Many have friends and family in the org and would be DAd or DFd (if they aren't already) and also shunned. This organisation has filled many (including me) with fear and, as quoted on another thread, it is just like 'The Hotel California - You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave'.

  There must be a way of doing this without causing pain to those who have already been drained & bled dry by the WTS. I would love to hear other people's opinions. I am definitely happy to help in any way I can. My name is already mud in my old congregation, due in part to the rumour-mill that starts when ever anybody leaves, so it can't get much worse.

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  JWs Advertising on TV now

  by eisenstein in

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  we were just watching er rerun episodes back to back...after the second episode finished chachasmum and i saw an advertisement for the jws.

  it started out showing a teenage girl on the computer like she was in a chat room...and it was showing her write love notes to someone whom she thought might be a teenage boy...and a voice over said something like...parents protect your children...then it showed an old, fat man with a bottle of beer, sitting back typing on the computer...then all of a sudden it said, "teach your children knowledge, wisdom and thinking ability"...it caught my ear and i looked closer at the bottom of the screen it read: christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses...and gave a 1-800 number.

  looks like they are stealing the mormons' pitch.

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  rebel

  This is hilarious.

  I know they are desperate. The only ones that seem to be getting baptised are the children of existing JWs - but they don't last. In my congregation, of the 12 young ones baptised in recent years, only 4 are still active JWs. The rest have skidaddled off into the 'world' and have become 'worldly' In other words, they can think for themselves and don't need this garbage in their lives. I am so pleased when this happens - it's great they escape while they are still young.

  They must be frantic to be using this approach. Do they really think anyone could watch an advert like this without a sick bag to hand?

  xxR
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  RUMOR ABOUT ME FLOATING AROUND THE HALL : (

  by MoeJoJoJo in

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  i cannot tell you how angry i am right now.

  the rumor is that i was pregnant before my husband and i were married.

  we were both witnesses and were married at the hall.

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  rebel

  MoeJoJoJo,

  Don't worry about these sad little people with their sad little lives.

  Apparently, I have legged it with another man AND have realised I am a lesbian (according to the gossiping old ratbags in my congregation) because I don't go to meetings any more.

  It only takes one pathetic, brainless moron to start a rumour and then they all chime in.

  Rise above it and try to feel pity for them. Their lives are obviously so boring that they have to make up stories about you. I am starting to find it amusing.

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  Meeting nights

  by JH in

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  did you ever notice that this site is less active when there are meetings, like tonight thursday?

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  rebel

  Phew! So I'm not a troll after all.

  Thanks for the definition jgnat.

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  Meeting nights

  by JH in

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  did you ever notice that this site is less active when there are meetings, like tonight thursday?

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  rebel

  So I guess I'll just have to live with my ignorance, never knowing if I or anyone else is a troll......

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  Meeting nights

  by JH in

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  did you ever notice that this site is less active when there are meetings, like tonight thursday?

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  rebel

  I'm still not 100% certain what a troll is. But I don't think I am one.

  What are you implying, JH? That people who still go to meetings but who post on this board are trolls? What does that mean? I post on this board. If I want to go to a meeting, that's my business. Maybe I am in the process of fading. Maybe I am DFd or DAd and enjoy sitting at the back of the KH being ignored. Maybe I love going to the meetings and am still a loyal JW. So what - does that make me a troll? What does that mean? Can someone enlighten me?

  And, as someone already mentioned, do you have any idea how many time zones are involved on this board? There will always be people attending meetings because of that. We don't all live in your time zone.

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  Is the Watchtower Sterile Seed?

  by jgnat in

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  wt february 1

  keep bearing much fruit

  study march 23, 2003

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  rebel

  This is something that always made me angry. I remember the ones at the literature counter, with their ton-weigth of magazines, smugly looking down at my half-dozen or so.

  I get so annoyed when the WTS equates being a good Christian with the amount of literature placed and the amount of hours on field service. They don't think that compassion, love, kindness, tenderness etc matters one jot. You can have someone that is so kind and always has time for others, but if he/she is not putting enough hours in or placing hundreds of mags, they are worthless. In my old congregation, the ones that did the most hours & placed books by the trolley load were not necessarily the nicest people.

  xxR
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  How to help my son escape

  by rebel in

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  the quote below was on another thread but i was afraid it would get lost.. "as a side note - if anyone can help me and tell me how to broach the subject of my drifting away to my youngest son, i would be so grateful.. what do i tell him?

  he asks why i don't go to meetings any more.

  he is so concerned and thinks i am in danger of dying at armageddon.

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  rebel

  Thanks everyone. I have saved your replies and will go through them later.

  I am not very good when I am put on the spot. Someone once told me (before I became a JW) that you should never argue with a JW over Bible doctrine because they know their Bibles inside out. I do tend to go to pieces when I try to put my point across to JWs - they can run rings around me if they are quoting the Bible. At least I can do some research beforehand.

  Thanks

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  How to help my son escape

  by rebel in

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  the quote below was on another thread but i was afraid it would get lost.. "as a side note - if anyone can help me and tell me how to broach the subject of my drifting away to my youngest son, i would be so grateful.. what do i tell him?

  he asks why i don't go to meetings any more.

  he is so concerned and thinks i am in danger of dying at armageddon.

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  Thanks fo your input guys.

  As jgnat pointed out, he is 20 now, but a very naive 20. He doesn't like confrontation and hates to upset anyone. He is really a sweet kid but I worry about him.

  I take on board what you all say. My eldest says I should leave him to make up his own mind. I think I should, but I don't want him to get hurt. The more I find out about this organisation, the more worried I get. I'd hate for him to get in deeper, such as become an MS. He is well liked in the congregation and very popular. I panic when I think of him marrying a JW and bringing up his kids as JWs. Mabe I should just mind my own business.

  I have tried to look at it this way. If he feels he can serve God by being a JW, then I should let him. It's just that he hates it when the elders come down on me for non-meeting attendance. He will be gutted if/when they DF or DA me, which I feel is only a matter of time. I haven't done anything worthy of being DFd, but I have seen them do this to someone else who hadn't done anything other than not go to meetings. I won't be going to the Memorial which will annoy our PO even more. He said he 'expects' to see me there (message relayed via my husband). I told my husband to tell him to go and boil his head!

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  How to help my son escape

  by rebel in

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  the quote below was on another thread but i was afraid it would get lost.. "as a side note - if anyone can help me and tell me how to broach the subject of my drifting away to my youngest son, i would be so grateful.. what do i tell him?

  he asks why i don't go to meetings any more.

  he is so concerned and thinks i am in danger of dying at armageddon.

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  rebel

  The quote below was on another thread but I was afraid it would get lost.

  "As a side note - if anyone can help me and tell me how to broach the subject of my drifting away to my youngest son, I would be so grateful.. What do I tell him? He asks why I don't go to meetings any more. He is so concerned and thinks I am in danger of dying at Armageddon. How do I start explaining things to him. I want to get him out of this hateful cult, but I do not want to hurt him. "

  xxR

  My son is such a good boy but he is torn between me and his dad. I think he will feel disloyal to discuss the society in a negative light. Any sugestions on how to approach this (bear in mind that I dragged my family into this mess)

  XXR