Posts by rebel

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Back from the Memorial

by ScoobySnax in

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well like i say, just got back from the memorial, have been going most years, but this year i went by chance (knew it was roughly at 7pm at the nearest kh) to my old congregation that i grew up in.

i didn't find the "evil" people spoke of here on this forum, or those too stupid to see.

all i did see was people i hadn't seen in years, and let me tell you, what lovely people they were.

I certainly don't think all JWs are bad or uncaring. I didn't go to the KH for the memorial because I would have received the same reception as Wednesday (Wednesday - I am so sorry you and your husband suffered at the hands of a bunch of ignorant people). I just could not go through with it - all the falseness, the pretend love, the gossip as soon as my back was turned etc. I know a lot of them dislike me. My congregation is just like Wednesday's - full of affluent peole who look down on the working-class. I know you get people like that everywhere, but this is supposed to be God's true organisation. Don't you think it should stand out as different? Don't you think that the people should be loving and caring, whatever congregation you go to and however rich they are?

Your congregation sounds really nice - many are not. There were many good people attending my KH last night - I mean, my family were there and they mean a lot to me. But I still could not go because the whole thing is meaningless. And as it turns out, the whole evening was so good and hubby was in such a good mood - not going was the best decision I have made in a long time.

By the way - as I have said before, do you think these people you are raving about would treat you so well if they knew the sort of life you are leading at the moment? You have posted on here that you get up to all sorts. That is your choice, but that is NOT how JWs would see it. If just one found out, they would drop you in it big time and pat themselves on the back for being good little 'christian' snitches. Watch your back!

xxR

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WISH ME LUCK!

by rebel in

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friends

hubby will be in from the memorial soon.

he was annoyed that i didn't go.

i am not looking forward to his return.. wish me luck guys.

rebel

Thanks for your good wishes - they really worked.

I am absolutely gobsmacked. He stopped by a garage on the way home and bought me a bunch of flowers. I am so happy

I don't know about men not understanding women - I don't understand men

Anyway - I feel so much better than I have all day - I have been feeling nervous and sick for no reason.

xxR

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WISH ME LUCK!

by rebel in

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friends

hubby will be in from the memorial soon.

he was annoyed that i didn't go.

i am not looking forward to his return.. wish me luck guys.

rebel

Hubby will be in from the memorial soon. He was annoyed that I didn't go. I am NOT looking forward to his return.

Wish me luck guys

xxR

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Blackadder

by Pleasuredome in

i loved blackadder, with it's sharp witted humour.

black adder goes forth was my fave episode.

some great quotes below.

rebel

I loved Blackadder Goes Forth.

I also like the one with Mr and Mrs Ploppy (although they weren't related!)

It was the one where Blackadder cut off the wrong person's head off - classic

xxR

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Considered Suicide ?

by Guest 77 in

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after reading about the two jw's committing suicide and larc's comments, how many of us have considered suicide?

i saw a movie about a man trying every trick in the book to committ suicide and failed.

it got to the point in the movie that you know his next new attempt would fail.. most likely some people prefer to die without committing suicide.

rebel

I don't think being a JW helped me when I was depressed - in fact it made me worse. When you are feeling in the depths of despair, the last thing you need is some eejit with a Bible at your hospital bedside, telling you that your faith is weak and you need to build a truly personal relationship with Jehovah in order to feel better. If only it was that easy! The only reason any of them visited me in the 'loony bin' (as one loving sister put it) was because it made them feel good to see me so low. They loved preaching to me, being seen by all the other patients putting on a show of love, looking like such goddy-goddies.

So much for the organisation being a refuge, somewhere to run to when you are in pain or feeling bad. In my experience, they didn't help one little bit. They were completely unable to understand anything I was feeling and just rammed scriptures down my throat when all I wanted was to be left alone.

Mind you, I was suffering from bouts of depression long before I became a JW, so they weren't to blame for it in my case.

xxR

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Let's Infiltrate....

by integ in

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friends

as i eagerly anticipate and pray for the demise of the org, i am thinking about different ways this could possibly be accomplished...one way would be from within.

i know this sounds crazy but what if some of the bethel "heavies" actually turned against the org, or are already subletly trying to bring it down from the inside.

i know this is but a dream, but it's not entirely impossible...it seems like that would be one of the only ways to expedite the process..you would start seeing veiled, insidious, anti-org "suggestions" in the mags, books, etc.

rebel

Integ,

"In my intense desire to one day see my family experience spiritual freedom I've mused about faking being super spiritual, claim to be "annointed", and try to rise through the ranks...I must be nuts."

I don't think you are nuts. This is such an admirable thing to want to do. To even think of putting yourself through all of this to rescue your family is so loving.

What a horrible organisation. How creepy that you cannot just walk away. My God, I must have been mad to get involved.

xxR

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Considered Suicide ?

by Guest 77 in

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friends

after reading about the two jw's committing suicide and larc's comments, how many of us have considered suicide?

i saw a movie about a man trying every trick in the book to committ suicide and failed.

it got to the point in the movie that you know his next new attempt would fail.. most likely some people prefer to die without committing suicide.

rebel

I totally agree with Sentinel.

If a person has made up their mind to commit suicide, and it isn't an idle threat or a way of getting attention, they will eventually carry it through. It may take them years to finally get around to it, but if that is they way they choose to die, they will do it. Locking them away and keeping them drugged up to the eyeballs is just postponing it until another day.

I really think it is a matter of choice. Most people would not consider taking their own life. They would fight tooth and nail to survive. A small minority do not have such a love of life. Sometimes life can be such a chore, an ordeal to get through from one day to the next. If you get to that stage, it can be a mammoth task to start to feel normal again, whatever normal is. I get a bit annoyed when some people say it is a selfish act. Nobody asks to be born, and some people just do not want to carry on living. They dread the thought of living the way the rest of you dread the thought of dying. A friend of mine committed suicide some time back, and she was very calm and thoughtful about the whole thing. She wasn't emotional or hysterical, just calm and resolved that this was the time she wanted to go. She said she had nothing more to offer and wanted nothing more out of life, so she went. I don't think that was selfish.

Just my thoughts

xxR

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What Were You Told That You Had To Work on By The Elders?

by minimus in

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friends

the elders feel obliged to have you work on at least, something.

what did they tell you?

rebel

I got more or less the same as the rest of you.

Be more submissive, don't be so opinionated, be more submissive, do as you are told, be more submissive, don't EVER question the elders, be more submissive, remember the headship arrangement, be more submissive and hubby will be an elder one day.

xxR

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Memorial anyone?

by basics-for-me in

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anyone got plans to attend the memorial?.

i am going again this year.

not out of duty or for anyone else but for myself.

rebel

I have definitely made up my mind not to go, but I know I may be in for a rough ride later.

I had 2 elders visit last Saturday. I didn't invite them in - I kept them at the door. My husband was out in field service and I didn't want them ganging up in me when I was on my own. I told them I would be at the memorial, even though I knew I wouldn't be, just to get rid of them.

This is the first one I have missed in 18 years.

xxR

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Considered Suicide ?

by Guest 77 in

jw
friends

after reading about the two jw's committing suicide and larc's comments, how many of us have considered suicide?

i saw a movie about a man trying every trick in the book to committ suicide and failed.

it got to the point in the movie that you know his next new attempt would fail.. most likely some people prefer to die without committing suicide.

rebel

Hi Guest 77,

I have considered suicide many times - I made a pretty good attempt at it once but only ended up being sectioned for months by a bunch of moronic doctors.

I still seriously consider it - I often think of it as a way out if things ever get too bad - it's a bit like my security blanket - something I know I can do when I can no longer bear life any more - it gives me a strange sense of security which will sound really weird to some of you. It's really hard to explain. It isn't directly connected to being a JW, although that hasn't helped. I just suffer from severe bouts of depression on and off - I have done since I was in my early teens. I was always made to feel a failure as a JW because of my depression - it was implied that my faith was weak and I didn't pray enough, study enough, wasn't submissive enough.......you get the picture.

I really feel for that couple who commited suicide. It is so sad when living is no longer an option - I can honestly say I know how they must have felt. To get to that stage of despair is really the pits.

xxR