Posts by losingit

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The Elders Returned, as Promised!

by exWTslave in

wonderful love!.

losingit

What a testimony! Thank you for sharing

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How many in the cong visited you when you started fading

by joe134cd in

i'm just curious speaking from a person who has stopped going to meetings.

i have heard reports from inactive ones (or from ones who the elders suspect of going to the dark side) of having so many visits from elders (cong members) that it got to the point of harassment.

surprisingly i have to say from personal experience and from numerous others that i have spoken to that the exact opposite has been the case.

Mythoughts? You've chosen to fade, why does it matter if they visit you or not. You're free bc you chose to be. Now be happy. Makes it easier to make a clean break. And best of all you can still visit famiy and if you'd like to, any jw friends.

Imagine how hard it is when youve been df'd (forwhatever reason) and no longer have the support or love from friends. i have no jw family (thank God) but i literally lo st ALL of my jw friends. You see, i was a good jdub and had no worldly association. I am going through a tremendously difficult time and none of my friends are there for me anymore. They are gone.

Count your blessings.Sounds like you got out of the damn cult unscathed.

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Sing Dirges to Jehovah?

by donny in

back in 1985 my then-wife and i were having a lunchtime "gathering" at our place to show some support to the ones in our congregation who were full-time pioneers.

i had just recently received the vinyl collection of the songs featured in the song book "sing praises to jehovah" which had been released the previous year.. .

many of these melodies sounded depressing to me although i would have never admitted it at the time.

losingit

To me, there were many songs that sounded militant. Then the reason for it was, it was either produced in Germany, produced during WWII, produced at a concentration camp by imprisoned JWs , or produced by Germans. I kid you not. These songs sounded like we were marching towards war with the world. They very much promoted an us vs them mentality.

I have to say, I very much enjoyed the orchestra version of these songs. They sounded grandiose, and I appreciated hearing the light flutter of the flute. Would I listen to them now? Never! I'll take real classical music over that crap.

I am happy to report that my daughter finally forgot the words to Life without end, at last . It was ourfavorite somg as a family.I've stopped singing it, and now she doesn't remember the third song to our bedtime routine

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plz define ambient abuse

by losingit in

jw
friends

i've read the various threads on the topic here.

and i've read stuff online about the topic.

but honestly, i do not understand it!

losingit

AnneB ... that's a great way of breaking it down. I need tospend some time thinking about the topic. One of the things I really struggled with in.my last relationship was this feeling that I was crazy, but I knew I wasn't. I felt like I was constantly being told this, but then I could not pinpoint exact words. Sometimes I think I confused the abuse from the rreligion and the resulting cognitive dissonance with my marriage. But thenI talk to my mother and she confirms that I was treated that way in subtle ways. She witnessed some of it. It's odd. I can't wrap my head around it.

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plz define ambient abuse

by losingit in

jw
friends

i've read the various threads on the topic here.

and i've read stuff online about the topic.

but honestly, i do not understand it!

losingit

I've read the various threads on the topic here. And I've read stuff online about the topic. But honestly, I do not understand it! Could someone plz define it and maybe provide examples of how WT does this and hpw it happens in abusive relationships? I'm just not getting it! How is it different from emotional or mental abuse?

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My parents

by mzmmom in

my heart aches because of the wall i have had to build around myself.

this ache is easier to handle than the ache i would suffer if i ever went through the situation again.

i just can't do it.

losingit

Hopefully thngs will resolve themselves soon. I am sorry you are feeling this pain.

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3 years of study, Just found out!

by impala63rag in

jw
friends

hello friends, .

i would like some advice from those that are inpartial, and are familiar with the teachings of jw.

i studied with a wonderful jw couple weekly for 3 years.

losingit

Wish I had escaped it too. Good luck to.you now that you know the real deal. Live your life `and move away from anything JW.

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does it even matter?

by losingit in

jw
friends

i am thinking of sending a simple fb message to all of the jws i know.. "jwfacts.com" with the tag line, "you're in a cult.".

my motivation?

i am disturbed about the fact that these people that pretended to be friends look at me with a negative eye and have no clue as to how they abandoned my girls and i in a desperate time of need over the course of this past year.

losingit

Excellent Fernando. The bridges are burned, but there are still a few embers remaining. It seems like every time I have a horrific experience with my girls' father, I immediately think of these jws. I think of all of the lies I was told by him and his jw crew. I think about how I was lured in thru love bombing, how false it all was.

As far as being labeled a mentally diseased apostate, I don't really care. I'm out, have been out for months now. But for me, how disturbing it is that a friend that wasn't even baptized, one that I turned to for emotional support unfriended me on fb? I'm just tired of it.... I'm tired of the fact that I'm STILL feeling the effects of their lies in my life. Why should they have the last word, if it's based on lies?

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does it even matter?

by losingit in

jw
friends

i am thinking of sending a simple fb message to all of the jws i know.. "jwfacts.com" with the tag line, "you're in a cult.".

my motivation?

i am disturbed about the fact that these people that pretended to be friends look at me with a negative eye and have no clue as to how they abandoned my girls and i in a desperate time of need over the course of this past year.

losingit

I am thinking of sending a simple fb message to all of the jws I know.

"Jwfacts.com" with the tag line, "You're in a cult."

My motivation? I am disturbed about the fact that these people that pretended to be friends look at me with a negative eye and have no clue as to how they abandoned my girls and I in a desperate time of need over the course of this past year. Those that were so close to us that we considered them family have not even bothered to get in contact with my girls... several families, in fact, have chosen to ignore them.

Yes, I know many of you have considered this a blessing in disguise. I do too. However, that's not the point. The point is that these jws are completely lacking in love and have no clue that is how they are. I have even been unfriended on facebook by a girl who is not even baptized! She just grew up in the goddamn cult! Amazing! And I defended her so much to jws, standing up for her whenever they insulted her behind her back. Coward? Hypocrite? I don't know what to make of her move.

But then I think... does it even matter? Should I even bother sending that brief message?

Time and time again, the NON-jws in my life... you know NORMAL PEOPLE... have been there for me and my girls. Time and time again, without fault.

Ultimately, the disparity between the NON jws an jws should be so clear to my girls as they grow older that I hope and pray that they will never be involved with this cult. Even their own father has abandoned them. DF'd jw, but it doesn't matter. Cruelty runs deep in jw blood, and he has definitely inherited that trait.

So, what do you think? Final nail in the coffin? Do I send that brief fb message? Does it even matter?

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Elders School 2013: Model Judicial Committee Videos and messages from the GB

by hildebrando in

for the first time, weve accessed to audiovisual material in spanish, regarding the elders schools.

here is a video of a dramatization of a model judicial committee, in addition to letts introduction (speaking with strange gestures) and comments from anthony morris iii:.

http://hildeydesa.blogspot.com/2014/02/escuela-de-ancianos-2013-videos-de.html.

losingit

You guys would die over how crazy this video is. Makes me sick! The commentary below details the manipulation of the elders to bring a decision to disfellowship. Im sorry, but ifyou're an elder or ever were-- how can u deal with knowing you nflicyed so much manipulation?

Too many nasty horrible memories of the kingdom hall comes to mind by watching this video. Just the room with the map, the chairs, copy machne, the library-- jus horrible . Hopefully someone here can take thetime to.translate.

The pinky ring, ugh! At least the Pope lead an nteresting life!