Cofty,
Just so you know (as if you didn't already). When you and Snare leave, I'm outta here.
people who believe that every verse of the bible is inspired are in for a shock.
according to genesis account, god created heavens and the earthin a one-time act.
but an experiment conducted at the south pole, two weeks back, has caught ripples in the oldest light in the universe.
Cofty,
Just so you know (as if you didn't already). When you and Snare leave, I'm outta here.
people who believe that every verse of the bible is inspired are in for a shock.
according to genesis account, god created heavens and the earthin a one-time act.
but an experiment conducted at the south pole, two weeks back, has caught ripples in the oldest light in the universe.
The slightly annoying part of this is that Snow is a kinder gentler version of Rev. Tammy. The really annoying part of this is that she runs out of posts she posts so often. How many boring ass theist posts droning on and on about the same thing can one possibly post? Evidently a whole helluva lot. Adding nothing to any post other than the cyber Kingdom Hall post-Dub theist mantras, which apparently serves a huge purpose to most of the ex-Dubs on this site. And the really really annoying part of this is the cyber freaking Kingdom Hall this appears to be, where ex-JW and theist crap, I mean subjects, are discussed ad-nauseum. But the really, really, really annoying part of this is when they enter non-theist posts with the same mantras.
But this site is what it is. I'm the one with the problem it seems. I will stay with my 1.2 posts per day, trying to get the ex-Dubs to learn to think rationally and analytically, supporting gays and those who want to masturbate and welcoming new ones.
people who believe that every verse of the bible is inspired are in for a shock.
according to genesis account, god created heavens and the earthin a one-time act.
but an experiment conducted at the south pole, two weeks back, has caught ripples in the oldest light in the universe.
Snow,
No one cared about your first say on the matter, much less your final one. You believe what you wish regardless of the facts. Close your mind. Keep it closed.
1. they done me wrong.
2. i'm depressed.
3. i'm gonna act like an apostate (smoke, drink, drugs, sex, outrageous behavior).
Fink,
Nice post. Thanks. I'm not a humanist, but that's why there are humanists. I won't say I wasn't angry. I was. Very. But, being the rational minded person that I am who learned a long time ago to take personal responsibility for things I caused, I realized the anger should be at myself (and maybe parents for exposing me to the cult) for being deluded. I used that knowledge and the anger as fuel. Jet fuel. I still do some 20 years later.
1. they done me wrong.
2. i'm depressed.
3. i'm gonna act like an apostate (smoke, drink, drugs, sex, outrageous behavior).
Other than trying to understand how/why I allowed the Borg to control me, and the ensuring search for my own understanding (but NOT to find a replacement), none of the others apply. I hit the ground running. With a plan and a vision. And determination that success and happiness are the greatest 'revenge.' And I haven't looked back (except to wonder how I ever got involved in this nasty cult in the first place)>
I believe those who turn to this site - and then stay on it for years by doing nothing more than making this site their cyber kingdom hall where they discuss and angst about all things Borgian - are stuck somewhere in the continuum you describe, Terry. That's why I avoided such sites for 2 decades and spent the time living and learning. I would recommend my 'template' to everyone.
according to bloomberg news:.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.
"the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.
Tootired,
This discussion is heading for chimp-land. Good night. I don't attempt rational discussions with chimps. And I find fat people eating more disgusting than men kissing. But I would shoot both of their weddings.
according to bloomberg news:.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.
"the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.
I don't like watching fat people eat, but I deal with it.
according to bloomberg news:.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.
"the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.
If a company establishes a bonafide occupatonal qualification (BOQ) for a job, and this is clearly stated in the job description, it has the right to expect the task performed regardless. This is an HR question, and companies are protected by law. But the BOQ must be legit and the job description specific enough to address it. Some companies make allowances based on relgion, and that is their right. But the law protects companies based on the 2 things mentiioned.
according to bloomberg news:.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.
"the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.
Alright bitcches, listen up. Professor DJS is going to give you an overview of how economics and ethics work together in modern day capitalistic countries. And for those of you who wonder, yes, I have studied both subjects at the Master’s level and taught, for several years, both subjects at the college level.
Organizations and businesses are egoist, which means their decisions are typically based on self interest and that this is just and proper. Profit is not a dirty word, for example. Capitalism was built on this, and it works well – to a point.
The U.S. government rests on the foundation of the Constitution (life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and general welfare for all), and operates typically in a utilitarian manner, (for the common good), which means that actions should be directed toward achieving the greatest happiness for the greatest number of individuals, or all of society, and would seek a balance of justice, freedom and fairness. The Constitution (which was a revolutionary document crafted by visionaries) is predicated on these concepts.
Balancing these two views is the skill-set which makes great countries. Both are correct. One isn’t ‘right’ and one isn’t ‘wrong.’ Governments in capitalistic countries seek to create a thriving business environment for a strong economy while balancing the need for regulation (environment, social, etc.), justice and fairness for all. But governments, according to Adam Smith’s perfect model, shouldn’t directly support or subsidize businesses, unless those businesses impact the country’s ability to feed and protect itself. Otherwise, failing businesses should be allowed to fail. Textiles? Let them go to Mexico and replace textiles with semi-conductors. Banks? Let them fail and be absorbed by other banks. Chrysler? Let it go the way of the wind and see what type of Phoenix, more beautiful and efficient, is re-born in its place. The recent bailout of the banks deemed to be TBTF (too big to fail) was more political response than reality. Other banks would have absorbed the failed ones, and the economy would have rebounded stronger for it. But many weren’t able to accept the short-term political and economic impact.
That’s the way Adam Smith envisioned a perfect economic model. He was right. But we humans – and our congressmen/women - don’t want the textile industry to go away if we depend on it for food or political power. We don’t want Chrysler to fail if we work for Chrysler or within the supply chain. And so on. The egoist, some of which rail against government controls, etc., seeks assistance from the universalist when they need it (bail me out, subsidize me, build a wall around me, keep those mean Chinese away, increase tariffs, etc.). As expected. The egoist will always think of themselves first and last.
The egoist (businesses) also seeks assistance from the universalist (government) by lobbying for and demanding better roads, schools, airports, utilities, etc. to help its business thrive.
So it comes off as more than a bit hypocritical for a business, a completely egoist enterprise, to think it can serve only who it wishes, especially when it has asked and gotten so much from the government – which has a competing interest of the common good for all – that has helped make their business thrive. And how many of you haters have or have had government backed school and/or home loans, lived in subsidized housing, were on food stamps, welfare, WIC, worker's comp, etc., etc.. To paint with such a broad brush about the mean ole violent government, especially when one has benefited from it so much, is hypocritical.
Those businesses which discriminate against others, even or especially based on their own peronal relgious beliefs, are on very shaky ground when it comes to the U.S. egoist/universalist capitalistic environment and the U.S. Constitution. To try to hide behind religion is a sham, and the courts have consistently upheld the rights of all citizens when they faced such discrimination. Courts in state after state are ruling that discriminating against gays is unconstitutional and numerous anti-gay marriage laws have been overturned (many of these decisions are currently stayed based on appeal).
Deal with it haters.
according to bloomberg news:.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.
"the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.
Viviane,
Well done young lady. You should work at the zoo, as your ability to control chimps is outstanding. What a lot of bigoted and stupid posters don't quite understand is that their business doesn't exist in a vacuum or shangrrla of their own making. Businesses thrive based on an enormous amount of GOVERNMENT support, seen and unseen. Yes, taxes pay for this, but roads, schools, safety, security, etc. that is provided by this process makes it possible for businesses to carry on business. When you open a business in the free market capatilistic/government regulated environment you enter this partnership; whether you are too stupid to realize it is your own problem. Or I propose a new strategy R2: open your business in the boonies without running water, electricity, government paved roads, schools to supply qualified people, and all of the other services and infrastructure necessary to make businesses thrive. And see how long you make it.