Bath, excellent, excellent post. I use Maslow's hierarchy of needs a lot in my classes to help explain behaviors. For the leaders I believe narcissism and ego play a huge role. They simply cannot believe all of the tripe they spew. But no one wants to give up power and control, whether its a Boy Scout leader, a preacher, a CEO, the coach of a team, or the Borg's leadership. Power and control are the ultimate aphrodisiacs and ego/narcissism.
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26Why?
by SuperBoy inwhy does the wtbs do what it does?
if it's just to make money, they are easier ways.
online bingo websites for example.. what is the motivation to have millions of followers "voluntarily" giving of their time?
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Is it true that elders lurk the forums?
by make yourself init seems like it is one huge contradiction.
but are they doing it for the purpose to try to guess exactly who in the congregation is on ex jw sites?
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For example, a well responded to post may get 10 to 20 times the number of views as posts. Granted, some of those 'views' are from posters, so the 'science' is at best fuzzy. However, note this post. Only 27 posts but over 1500 views. It would be of major interest to lurking Borgians, likely not so much to those who have been out for over a year or two. Hi y'all!!!!
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Is it true that elders lurk the forums?
by make yourself init seems like it is one huge contradiction.
but are they doing it for the purpose to try to guess exactly who in the congregation is on ex jw sites?
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I've posted this before, but I've taken note of the types of threads and OPs which typically run off the charts with views (not posts, just views). They are almost always about what's happening CURRENTLY in the Borg. Any post that concerns any changes or 'new light' re: the latest WT, OKM, DO, CO, BOE, GB immediately gets tons of views. That would suggest that there are a lot of current JW lurkers, and it would only be reasonable to conclude some of those lurkers are elders. Come on in, the water's fine!!!!
Simon could probably provide better numbers. Mine is simply an observation over time.
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How many here (believers) believe in the Hell fire doctrine and why??
by jam init's obvious the bible is very clear on a actual hell of fire.
"cursed into the eternal fire with the devil and his angels", rev.20:15.
"lake of fire", rev.21:8 "fire and brimstone".
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SarahFrown??? You still believe that? That was considered a metaphor by the Borg. A loving god would torment pathetic humans, regardless of how bad they turned out, forever? Really? You believe that? Say it aint so. SarahSmile is one of my favorite 70s Hall and Oates songs.
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Ok Kate and Viviane, DO NOT make me come in here and break this up. Really, don't. ;-)
More popcorn please. Seriously you two. You are two of my favorite posters. You two HAVE to get along. For me. Not for you. You see it's about me. ;-)
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Viviane and Village Girl, you both rock and this has been enlightening and entertaining. I avoid these discussions because I'm not a SME. I know lots about lots but not this topic. You each have forgotten more than I know about it. Based on what little I know, you both are apparently 'right' depending on which expert is asked. Ok, now that's over, what I REALLY want to say. .... GIRL FIGHT!!! (Bring the popcorn). Just kidding.
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A farce elder here
by His Excellency injust to share a little about me:.
i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .
makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .
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James,
I understand; I've been trying to give Hugh the benefit of the doubt, assuming he is real. If his bio is correct, he is 27? Is this correct? And if he grew up around harshness then harshness would seem normal to him, in addition to his youth. I'm glad you are on this site. I went through the same thing when I left the Borg; I regretted any of the harshness (not much) I showed the friends. I would do things differently. I guess the point many are making about Hugh is that he has a chance to 'do things differently.'
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A farce elder here
by His Excellency injust to share a little about me:.
i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .
makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .
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Kate, assuming he is real, I agree 100 percent. The elders reflect their masters, the Dark Lords in the Tower. When I was appointed an elder my 'mission' was to lighten the load and make being a Dub fun. That certainly was a delusional short trip out of the Death Star. I think Hugh is an imposter/troll. But there are a lot of real ones just like him.
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A farce elder here
by His Excellency injust to share a little about me:.
i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .
makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .
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Yes, I agree. A troll. His screen name is desgined to annoy.
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Do you believe there will be "Mass Suicides" within the BAC/JW community?
by booker-t inas a "therapist trainee"(still have to take my license test) i worry about all of the religious people out there who might commit suicide if the rapture/armaggeddon does not materialize.
what if the bible is proven to be "a big fairy tale" will born again christians(bac) and jws kill themself?
i worry about some of my older jw relatives that have waited for armaggeddon for 50 years and are still waiting.
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Booker T (and the MGs),
The bible has already been proven to be one big fairy tale. Certainly there is some historical accuracy to it, but as 'god's word' it is a fairy tale. The problem: the manner in which it is written it will be 'relevant' for the next generation. And the next. And the next. Isn't that special? So your premise lacks solid foundation. People believe because they want to believe. Belief is the second lowest facet of sentient beings, just above feelings. Believing reqires nothing more than feeling. If the big A doesn't come, someone, after a period of time, will emerge with the 'true' understanding. And people will listen because they want to listen and they want to believe. Screw the facts. Or science. Or proof.