Londo111,
That makes sense. Thanks. Cults don't want you to be Intuitive or Thinking. So NTs will be more likely to exit cults. The "F" (feeling) is exactly what would be predicted, as all religions thrive because of it.
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Londo111,
That makes sense. Thanks. Cults don't want you to be Intuitive or Thinking. So NTs will be more likely to exit cults. The "F" (feeling) is exactly what would be predicted, as all religions thrive because of it.
i try ... i really try to watch football (soccer) ... it's world cup time ... i really do try.. i just don't get it ... i really don't.. yes, it's a world-wide sport.
in most countries it is the number 1 or number 2 sport ... no doubt about it.
it's maybe number 5 in the usa for professional sports.. from an american's perspective (i think i speak for many), we just wonder if these guys actually have testicles.
It is a beautiful game, I will acknowledge. The skillsets and athleticism are amazing. But 1-0? The US had 4 goals in 3 games and gave up 4 goals in 3 games (I think that's right). And that's a better average than most of the teams. After 2 games I think about half the teams hadn't scored any goals. And these are the best players in the world. After 85 minutes (of a 90 minute match I think) every match was 0-0 or 1-0 (I'm barely exaggerating). I'm sorry, call me a spoiled American who likes immediate gratification, but I'm not going to follow a sport where offense/scoring is so rare. Otherwise it is an amazing game.
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Ucantnome,
Good point. Maybe the "N" is the key! We could probably do a major rearch paper on the subject. Who knows, we might even identify personality types that did not ever need to be associated with the Borg and maybe other high control cults. We could publish the data and lobby the government to require MBPTI tests for everyone wanting to join a religion. Heck, we could write a sci-fi screen play along these lines. Divergent, the recent movie, is based on a similar premise. Divergent personalities coldn't be controlled by the post apolcalyptic government so they tried to exterminate them. I think we are onto something!!!
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Frazzled,
You may be onto something. My educated guess would be the N combined with the T would be the most likely to exit the Borg. NTs are Rationalists; the Borg, and the bible and religion for that matter, aren't rational. Evidently only 10.3 percent or so of the population are Rationalists. That's not based on any real data though. It would be interesting to get everyone on this site to submitt their MBPTI to Viviane (I just volunteered you Viv) and she can run the numbers and determine whether there is any correlation between personality types and the likelihood to exit the Borg.
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Flying High,
Excellent point re: changing our peronality over time. We can change certain aspects of our personalities. Over about two decades two out of the four of my MBPTI changed. Some of that was intentional (I was ignoring my Intuitive side, relying on my Sensing side too much. What can I say, I'm (was) shallow). Some of it was likely natural. I was much more introverted when I was younger, likely as a result of nature/nurture, including my time in the Borg. I've become much more extroverted since that time. The MBPTI is also only one tool for understanding people; it wasn't meant to be a stand alone evaluative or analytical tool, including for hiring/job placements and promotions.
Kiersey's books have been used widely, as I mentioned previously, by counselors. Some marriage and family counselors make it required reading. Please Undertand Me and Please Understand Me II, though not perfect science, are very accurate. I was very skeptical of the MBPTI and Kiersey before I began looking into it. I used Kiersey's books to understand my chldren. My son is an Artisan; I'm a Rational. Sometimes I think he is from a distant planet!!! Kiersey explains that is normal.
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A study last year of average household income by MBPTI type in the US suggests that EJs have the highest family incomes, taking 4 of the top 6 spots. ENTJs were the highest income type. The other 2 spots were IJs. To narrow it a bit, 3 of the 4 EJs were also Ts and both of the IJs were also Ts. So extroverted thinkers/judgers (5 of the 6 highest income types) seem to do better in the corporate world. Not really surprising.
The lowest income types were found among the feeler perceivers (FPs) and the feeler judgers (FJs). Feelings, which are obviously necessary, don't appear to correlate well in the busines world, and those who judge seem to fare better than those who perceive. Judging, btw, isn't really about judging others or being 'judgmental' in the MBPTI; it is more about judging a situation or event based on the storehouse of knowledge that you have, weighing a situation, data or events in the balance as it were, rather than jumping to conclusions or reacting based on feelings or perceptions.
Some, but statistically not all, of this clearly has to do with the types of vocations chosen (or drawn to by their personality type) by the various types, but even considering that, the MBPTI is darned accurate. As I stated a few weeks ago, it has its detractors, but David Kiersey, who has carried on the Myers/Briggs/Jung work, has taken the MBPTI to new heights. His newest book on this is scary accurate.
I was able to incorporate the MBPTI in an Ethics class I taught a few years ago at one of our local colleges. Interesting stuff.
I'm glad this OP was resurrected.
are all articles from jehovahs thoughts or do personal biased views poison the watchtower articles?
imagine a brother who hates chess observing in discust two bethelites playing chess...would it be right to use jehovahs "spiritual food" to push your own warped view....yes!!.
awake 1973 3/22 p.12 chess- "...the spirit of compitition between players can lead to unplesant circumstances...most families can keep comfrontations to the chess board...but for some the tension lingers long past checkmate...chess has been a game of war since its origin...a play substitute for the art of war...there is a danger of "stirring up compitition with one another" even developing hostility towards one another, something the bible warns christians to avoid..what effect does playing chess have apoun one?
Magwitch,
Thank you for the experience. The Dark Lords knew exactly what they were doing. They knew that they could effectively control the rank and file by turning them against one another in such 'trivial' matters. The reverberations throughout the congregations on these trivial matters were not trivial at all. It affected families, parents, children, marriages and caused needless anxiety, depression, and anger. Elders were routinely getting involved in these matters and many were 'marked' or shunned or reproved for these conscience matters. "Privileges' were withheld because of them. The Dark Lords knew exactly what they were doing. They knew of the harm they were causing and couldn't care less.
Control and power are all they care about.
are all articles from jehovahs thoughts or do personal biased views poison the watchtower articles?
imagine a brother who hates chess observing in discust two bethelites playing chess...would it be right to use jehovahs "spiritual food" to push your own warped view....yes!!.
awake 1973 3/22 p.12 chess- "...the spirit of compitition between players can lead to unplesant circumstances...most families can keep comfrontations to the chess board...but for some the tension lingers long past checkmate...chess has been a game of war since its origin...a play substitute for the art of war...there is a danger of "stirring up compitition with one another" even developing hostility towards one another, something the bible warns christians to avoid..what effect does playing chess have apoun one?
Bill,
Excellent point. The Dark Lords could never resist being the conscience of the rank and file whenever social trends emerged, from chess to rap music to tight pants. Such arrogance. The day these evil men lose their power wil be a very good day for the planet.
are all articles from jehovahs thoughts or do personal biased views poison the watchtower articles?
imagine a brother who hates chess observing in discust two bethelites playing chess...would it be right to use jehovahs "spiritual food" to push your own warped view....yes!!.
awake 1973 3/22 p.12 chess- "...the spirit of compitition between players can lead to unplesant circumstances...most families can keep comfrontations to the chess board...but for some the tension lingers long past checkmate...chess has been a game of war since its origin...a play substitute for the art of war...there is a danger of "stirring up compitition with one another" even developing hostility towards one another, something the bible warns christians to avoid..what effect does playing chess have apoun one?
Rules, Near Rules, Rules Lite, Semi-Rules, Almost Rules, Quasi-Rules, Walk-Talk-and-Act Like Rules. Aren't we all glad to be rid of this draconian control. Chess, like so many other things such as how I make love to my wife, how much education I achieve or allow my children to achieve, whether I play sports or allow my children to play sports, what kinds of music I listen to or allow my children to listen to, ad infinitum - fall into the same category:
None of their fukkking business. The mind numbing control is what caused me to begin despising the Dark Lords in the Dark Tower. I've been thankful for each day of the past 20 years out of the Borg that I no longer have to consider what these evil men say, think or write.
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Good for them. There isn't anything 'disgusting' about it. Maybe this will cause Serena to get in better shape. Venus rocks. The only thing about these sisters that is difficult to understand is why they give praise to Jehovah after they win championships, with the microphone in their face and millions watching on tv.