Opinions are fine and acceptable New Hope, they just need to be framed as opinions with some humility - you just might be wrong. How many of us on this site have been wrong about a major issue. Besides all of us.
Posts by DJS
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by new hope and happiness inre-reading my last thread ".... my former faith, islam and tolerance" i can see my o.p failed to clarify the specific point i wished to debate.
( ironically i thought most posters were off topic).. now it occurd to me that i have joined this " discussion forum" but i have no former exsperience on discussion forums.
(a very sad realization having been here a year).
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MY CONCLUSION IS: 'GOD' DOESN'T EXIST
by NAVYTOWN ini have come to the conclusion that there is no god.
period!!!
if there was a loving, righteous, all-knowing, all powerful god up there somewhere, where is he and what good is he???
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Witness 007 - can I grab a glass of wine and a girl and get naked or is your religion predicated on beer alone?
NavyTown - Ditto x 1000. It amazes me how anyone educated or smarter than the average bear can remain religious. It also amazes me how anyone coming out of a high control cult like the Dubs continues to seek 'god' in other religions. As if. Some even return to high control groups, such as the Mormons and Islam. No offense intended, please, but I find it impossible to understand. BTW NavyTown, I'm glad you are on this forum; I don't know that I ever disagree with anything you write.
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Discussion forum: Communication tips...
by new hope and happiness inre-reading my last thread ".... my former faith, islam and tolerance" i can see my o.p failed to clarify the specific point i wished to debate.
( ironically i thought most posters were off topic).. now it occurd to me that i have joined this " discussion forum" but i have no former exsperience on discussion forums.
(a very sad realization having been here a year).
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DJS
Good OP New Hope, even though it doesn't seem to be drawing a lot of attention. I agree with you, but the anonymity provided by the Internet allows dumbasses to say anything in any manner. In addition, the world wide web allows for a 'leveling' of the playing field so that dumbasses and smart people can both appear to have a point. In a controlled environment with a rational, educated audience, the dumbasses wouldn't even be invited to the forum, much less be able to hijack or contaminate the discussion.
Spelling and grammar and other communication issues don't really bother me (they would if I was still teaching college). What really annoys me is that so many dumbasses show a deep lack of respect of:
a. the topic (if you don't know anything about it keep quiet, avoid the keyboard, go to google scholar, read a book, or otherwise know wtf you are tallking about when you approach the keyboard). And going quickly to the www to find the first confirmation bias article is not research;
b. debating protocols - debates in the rational grown up world are about 2 things - facts and the correct interpretation of those facts. Anything else is an opinion or a debating strategy employed by someone who doesn't know what they are talking about and are seeking to 'win' points. Show some humility and frame an opinion as an opinion. It amazes me how many dumbasses quickly and arrogantly express entrenced views in disagreement with the absolute experts on a topic who have advanced degrees and decades of experience on a topic while they themselves have nothing more than a high school diploma from Dumbass High; and
c. other posters and lurkers - arrogantly and childishly taking up space that could better be used wastes everyone's time, and as Cofty and others have rightly pointed out, dumbass views can infect others.
Wiinning 'points' on the world wide web is a given; any dumbass viewpoint immediately collects a cadre of like-minded dumbass adherents, which is an annoying thing about the 'net but overall in the greater scheme of things may be a good thing. I'm still wondering about that though. I think all of us (except the dumbasses amongst us) would prefer that dumbasses remain silent, do some research, or simply show some humility. There are few things worse than an entrenched, arrogant dumbass.
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In your opinion: What is the average IQ of the Governing Body?
by LogCon ini don't know if this question has been asked before,.
but, in any case,.
based on the comments of the governing body, at various conventions, annual meetings , info-mmercials, etcetara, etcetara, etcetera, [ i loved yule brenner in the king and i],.
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DJS
Sir82 and Oubilette are likely spot on. The GB have never provided any reasons for anyone thinking their collective IQs are anything but average - at best. They might occasionally have one or two with higher than average IQs, but the tripe and nonsense coming from the Dark Tower over the decades strongly suggests individuals with lower than average intelligence.
Having met a few of them and listened to a lot of them dryly, rotely and moronically read scripted talks at assembles has supported my view that these are uninspired and uninspiring, follow the leader drones. IMHO, it is an insult to intelligent people everywhere to mention these idiots in the same breath. They have shown themselves, at best, to be average.
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The EBOLA conspiracy...
by gopher123 inhey guys.
there has been a ton of illuminati hollywood mind control pre-programming about this virus outbreak before it actually happened.
conspiracy people of the world... unite.. .
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LisaRose: Your statement: "DJS, you are giving him waaaayyyy too much credit. I think he actually believes this nonsense."
I'm trying to turn over a new leaf and be a kinder gentler DJS because of YOU!!! LOL. Your kind guidance has led me re-evaluate my responses. Apparently I have swung too far the otherway!!!! I'm sooo confused
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"Ebola is not spread through the air" -- CDC. Yeah, right!
by FatFreek 2005 insomehow, i don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when i keep hearing from the center of disease control, "ebola is not spread through the air ...".
ever sneezed?
the famous myth busters had a revealing show on the power of the sneeze anecdotally it has a velocity of some 35 miles per hour and travels a distance of some 30 feet.. ever traveled in the close confines of an air liner?
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From today's CNN on-line
Outrageous statements about Ebola
Experts break through the myths
The U.S. experience with Ebola -- that is, three cases diagnosed here -- is generating commentary both prudent and inane. FULL STORY
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The EBOLA conspiracy...
by gopher123 inhey guys.
there has been a ton of illuminati hollywood mind control pre-programming about this virus outbreak before it actually happened.
conspiracy people of the world... unite.. .
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Gopher seems more like a troll to me than a true conspiracy theorist. He is over the top even by theorist' standards. That's why I haven't engaged in this OP. Gopher seems to be pushing buttons. The more he posts the sillier and less intelliectual his 'argument' becomes. And I have a rule about not engaging trolls. The world wide web coupled with the level of dumbassedness in humans provides a steady supply of potential theories for theorists.
Gopher is a recent addition to our family, but by his style he has been doing this kind of stuff for a while. At least he has a level of entertainment with his nonsense.
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"Christians Are Leaving Christianity by the Droves"
by designs inin the blog http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com bloggers john shore, john loftus, and robert price are watching the dismantling of christinaity over the lgbt question in the us.
see the 10/17/2014 post.. coupled with the scandals of the megachurches lately many christians are asking questions for the first time on how things have gotten this way and where is the holy spirit to protect the church and people.. .
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DJS
"Outside of god there is no moral standard of right and wrong?" That's pure BS garbage and absolutely and completely not supported by the facts. Please provide rational comments or avoid the keyboard. We have provided voluminous data over the past year which clearly illustrates that the more atheistic and secular a state, region or nation is the more functional it is likely to be.
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City of Houston Demands Pastors Turn Over Gay-Bashing Sermons
by cultBgone inhas anyone else seen this, or did i just miss the posting?.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/14/city-houston-demands-pastors-turn-over-sermons/.
here's the opening paragraph:.
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DJS
Ravens,
I don't much get involved in theist discussioins out of respect and boredom. However, Zoos is using (I think) hyperbolic metaphors to describe what you come across as, which is an entrenched, right wing, Xtian fudamentalist. If you don't wish to be linked with such, I suggest a new strategy - opening your mind and heart and leaving behind the judgementalism associated with the bible and Xtianinity. I did two decades ago and I love life, myself and the world a thousand times more.
That's the point I think this OP is making. Lots of Xtians are getting tired of fundamentalism and judgmentalism, just as so many on this forum have. Bohm and Designs are correct; your views are short for the world. You can go kicking and screaming into oblivion or you can realize that the bible in no manner is inspired or our guidebook for living.
You are entitled to your beliefs, but marriage is primarily a civil and secular union. Trying to pass laws, maintain laws, or even judge those seeking a civil, secular privilege just because of their gender or persuasion is something that many of us wish you would keep to yourself or share within the confines of your own domecile or church. Bringing it out into the open makes it a target, rightly so, of ridicule.
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Are YOU a person who "collects" things? Let's chat a moment . . .
by Terry inas a kid i only collected comic books until around 1962.. my collection was very important to me and i had emotional excitement at the release of a new comic--but--i made a date with 2 girls.
on the same day and didn't have any money!
(not thinking it through, you see :).
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