Alpha,
I agree. The Constitution would seem to protect this.
Posts by DJS
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118Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$
by oneyeopen ino.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.
coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.
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Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$
by oneyeopen ino.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.
coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.
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Blondie,
You are joking, right? Gatuities accepted? Wedding packages??? Adverstising? It's a business.
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Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$
by oneyeopen ino.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.
coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.
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OneEye,
You are the one preaching hate. Those of us who oppose you are simply showing you that hate. Believe in fairy tales if you wish; you have the freedom. So calling down evil on me in Jah's name is love, huh?
We are talking about acceptance, ridding society of judgments based on sexual persuasion and activities which are private. If you wish to believe in angry gods who are going to detroy such then by all means continue to believe and hate. Thankfully society is gradually making the voicing of those opinions and judgments in public something to avoid.
Why are you so offended that I tell you the obvious- what consenting adults do in private is none of your business. Believe if you wish, just as racists can continue to be racists. But they can't act on it without consequences. Go into the privacy of your home or church and curse gays, lesbians, sluts, whores, swingers, transgenders, polygamists, polyamorists and people who play with their pets. That is your right. Ask your make believe friend in the sky to kill them all. That is your right.
But taking it out in public gets you what you deserve. I suggest you deal with it.
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Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$
by oneyeopen ino.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.
coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.
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Oneyeblind,
Marriage is a secular institution, and it has been practiced long before Xtianity appeared or even belief in your fairly tale Jah. I'm ok with you believing whatever you wish to believe, just as I support the Constitution's protection of church state separation which respects religious beliefs as long as they don't conflict with the state. But when it comes to the secular world what you believe about others' genitalia and how they use them is none of your business. What consenting adults do in private, I repeat, is none of your business, has never been any of your business and will never be any of your business. If you wish to keep your genitalia to yourself then by all means do so; in the meantime keep your judgments about what others do with theirs to yourself as well.
Please keep your narrow minded judgments to yourself or share them within your domicile or your place of worship.
In the real, secular world your beliefs have no place. Keep them to yourself. The world is rapidly changing, tellling you the same thing. I suggest you and Perry, rather than holding on to centuries' old dogma, deal with it or remain silent. The judgmental nouns and adjectives you use will one day be considered hate speech, because that is what it is. It may make you feel superior, but it is hate. And that isn't an opinion. The sooner that day arrives the better off our planet will be.
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Lets hope the G.B.never learn from their mistakes , refusing to comply with court instructions.
by smiddy inwith the recent case of the watchtower hierarchy defying the court to either produce documents relating to child sex abuse claims within their organisation, and also refusing to produce a governing member to appear in court to answer questions , not only shows their arrogance and defiance of the law , they also show their contempt of the judicial system of the usa .. arent they supposed to be obeying the bible injunction ?
" pay back ceasers things to ceaser ?".
"when you are hailed before the courts , i will put words in your mouth ?".
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PunkofNice,
The Dark Lords may appear magical and mystical and all powerful to the Borgians, but if they were exposed to the harsh, rational light of analysis brought about by a courtroom scenario, they would come across as uneducated, simpletons and buffoons. And yet their grandiose words written and imposed on its followers for decades are the very thing that will bury them once truly exposed. If Toto could expose the Wizard imagine how much more likely a trained prosecutor with an attitude can do to these pathetic delusional evil little men in NY.
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Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$
by oneyeopen ino.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.
coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.
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Perry,
Bull freaking shift. They violated the law; it is that simple. They aren't coming for anyone who isn't breaking the law. And it's a damn good law. What part of the fact that the Hitching Post is a for profit commercial enterprise don't you get? There isn't a story here other than right wing, religious feeler perceiver hysteria.
And, my theist colleagues, it is entirely possible and perhaps likely that the Idaho city officials taking this stance have the same personal views as you. But gays and lesbians can now legally marry in 32 states (I believe that is correct), including Idaho. In the history of the US, few if any courts have ever found that a business selling commercial services to the general public has a First Amendment right to turn away customers on a discriminatory basis.
It is the law; they are both very good laws. The Reverend will lose. He deserves to lose. And if he violates the law, as long as he is running a for profit commercial enterprise, I hope they place his sorry ass in jail, because it is what he deserves.
This is my last post on this OP. Y'all hysterical right wing reactionary theists talk amongst yourselves.
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Lets hope the G.B.never learn from their mistakes , refusing to comply with court instructions.
by smiddy inwith the recent case of the watchtower hierarchy defying the court to either produce documents relating to child sex abuse claims within their organisation, and also refusing to produce a governing member to appear in court to answer questions , not only shows their arrogance and defiance of the law , they also show their contempt of the judicial system of the usa .. arent they supposed to be obeying the bible injunction ?
" pay back ceasers things to ceaser ?".
"when you are hailed before the courts , i will put words in your mouth ?".
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Punk,
For whatever reason, it is the Dark Lord's strategy. But sooner or later, after the appeals are exhausted, they will have to pay up. It would seem to me that keeping the Dark Lords away from court is the only strategy. Prosecuting attorneys would have a field day ripping them apart with their own words. There is a gold mine of damning evidence against them in the WT publications, stretching back for decades. If I'm the prosecuting attorney, I would spend excrutiating amounts of time, once I got one of the Dark Lords before me, asking them to respond to the idiot quotes and moronic directives provided over the years to the rank and file, and especially to the elders. I'm certain the attorneys have all of it; it is discoverable if not already made available by people like us. Big Smiley.
If I'm the WT attorney, I'm keeping the Dark Lords and their delusional narcissistic dumb asses away from public viewing at all cost.
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Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$
by oneyeopen ino.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.
coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.
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Geesh,
Here we go again. The Hitching Post is a commercial enterprise - not a church. They have a very nice website. Google it. The law is very clear that commercial businesses cannot discriiminate based on race, gender, etc. Recently sexual persuasion has been added to the list, which is way overdue in the minds of many, including me. This topic has been discussed at length on this site and in the US Supreme Court, where the courts have consistently indicated for decades that commercial enterprises which serve the public cannot discriminate.
The Washington Times is a conservative paper noted in the past for its stance against gays. That the Times wouldn't include this extremely relevant information is of more concern to me. The paper was started by the Rev. Moon. It doesn't completely lack credibility, but its leanings are about as far right as you can be before fallling into the Atlantic.
The Rev and the Missus are violating the law, and it isn't even close. They will lose. Again, this isn't a church; the Hitching Post is a business.
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The PURE Language - Finaly
by Ish Elon inwho knows how many scribal errors the book we call 'the bible' contains?
the book of the law as written by the hand of moses has been found once more.
king josiah was the last king to see it and jeremiah the last prophet.
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WingCommander,
Ditto re: Oceans. He narcissistically drones on and on and on and on and on. And on. And I can't ever tell WTF he is even talking about, other than loving the sound of his own voice. At least Oceans ocasionally phrases his narcissistic meanderings as opinions, which spares him of (some) of our ridicule. But then Ish Elon keeps his delusional pontifications to a paragraph or two, sparing us the pain and agony. Decisions, decisions.
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The PURE Language - Finaly
by Ish Elon inwho knows how many scribal errors the book we call 'the bible' contains?
the book of the law as written by the hand of moses has been found once more.
king josiah was the last king to see it and jeremiah the last prophet.
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Punkofnice,
I don't know. I wish all of the delusional naricissistic post-dub prophets would go away. Or get a life (That aint happenin'). But I suppose they do provide entertainment. I think we have sent a few away in the year plus I've been on the site, with our ridicule.
Let's analyze what Ish is actually saying: "You will be amased (spelling) when its contents are publicly revealed." The inference is that Ish has had a private viewing and already knows what is in them. Special knowledge. Special access to the big girl in the sky. "Keep in expectation . . " What the f? Really? Ish is using explicit bible/prophet speak on us? I mean, really? Ish and those like him deserve our strongest ridicule.
I'm certain the ones we have chased away are still sharing their special knowledge, likely on Reverend Tammy's site or one like it. As long as they aren't doing it here.
I personally believe it is sad that any ex-Dub would attempt to make any sense of biblical interpretation and scriptural prophecy. As if. Apparently they left the Borg because of scriptural differences rather than freedom of conscience and freedom from control by the Dark Lords. We call them delusional narcissists; they likely call us angry atheists. And so it goes.