All the barriers you've already crossed just to ask this question on a public forum strongly suggests you want to go.
And that you will regret not going.
Go. By all means, GO. You will like yourself a lot better if you do.
my cousin, whom is not jw, but we have grown up together our whole lives has just gotten engaged to her same sex partner, i am very conflicted on wether i can/should attend the wedding or not.
i am very close with my cousin and her partner and they are very understanding to our beliefs and differences as she grew up with our whole family being jw.
some family members have already said they will definitely be attending and some definitely not attending so i just want some extra advice and guidance!
All the barriers you've already crossed just to ask this question on a public forum strongly suggests you want to go.
And that you will regret not going.
Go. By all means, GO. You will like yourself a lot better if you do.
jehovah's witnesses have never come to my door but they have come to my girlfriends door.
i have coached her as to what to say or ask but it appears that they always seem to come when she's not there.
.....just curious would you get into it with a jehovah's witness at your door especially if it was someone you did not know?.
To each his own. As I've stated previously, in the over two decades I've been out of the DarkTower the dubs have rarely shown up at my door. If they are coming around when I'm not home they aren't leaving 'back issues' or anything else. I can count on one hand the times I've seen them, and my house is close to the local KH and in a perfect area for FS with nice houses, nice roads and plenty of break options. I would think it is the type of territory that gets worked frequently.
I've encountered them a couple of times while I was working in the lawn or my garage. I'm always kind and respectful. I never shoot the messenger or the foot soldier, and I don't question them or be anything other than nice. Apparently the only place I'm an ass is on this site.
hey look!!
new topic due to new topic direction - immigration rather than economic - of course they might be related.... you often hear that in the us the jw growth is in the foreign language congregations.
which is interesting because..... 25% of jw's are first generation immigrants (ie born abroad).
sir82,
The data seem to confirm your comments. The following information is based on the same Pew Research Center report from 2015, and it shows that immigrants are as likely to be secular or atheist as those in this country, are selecting non-xtian religions at a higher rate, and overall xtianity is decreasing as a choice for immigrants since 2000. The final 'telling' stat from the report is that 15% of the respondents were first gen immigrants; assuming that is representative of the US, the % of J-dubs who are 1st gen immigrants is considerably above the norm, as are those who are choosing x-tianity.
Without 1st gen immigrants the DarkTower would be in serious US decline it seems. But we already knew that.
MAY 19, 201 GROWING SHARE OF U.S. IMMIGRANTS HAVE NO RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION
"Immigrants to the U.S. are increasingly identifying themselves as religiously unaffiliated, that is, atheist, agnostic or having “no religion in particular,” according to a new Pew Research Center study of America’s religious composition. Indeed, recent immigrants (those who have arrived since 2000) are as likely to have no religious affiliation as the country’s overall adult population.
Our 2014 Religious Landscape Study, a follow-up to the center’s first Religious Landscape Study in 2007, found that one-in-five immigrants said they did not belong to any religion – an increase of 4 percentage points since 2007, when 16% said they did not associate with any faith tradition.
The new survey also found that the share of Christian immigrants has slipped somewhat in the same period, moving from 75% to 68%. That too is in line with trends in the general population, where the share that is Christian has declined.
There also has been growth in the percentage of immigrants who are adherents of non-Christian faiths, rising from 8% to 12% in the past seven years, the new study found. Some groups have seen significant increases. For instance, Muslims now account for 4% of foreign-born residents in this country, up from 2% in 2007.
Roughly one-in-seven (15%) of the more than 35,000 participants in the new survey were born outside the U.S."
so that was a "shocker".
i was not able to attend the meeting.
i had a more important one with my other apostate friends in the area.
Great news. As expected. Very soon the only remaining dubs will be the hard core and those reaching out.
i just wanted to intoroduce myself.
i have been lurking for some time and finally decided to register and hopefully contribute to this great forum.. i am in my mid 30s and have never been in the truth.
my wife became a jw several years ago and since she is a (mostly) stay at home mom my two boys are also jws.
Welcome noob!!! And please, we don't 'convert' to atheism and we don't become atheists because of our experience with the DarkTower as if it were an emotional response to being jilted by the goddess.
It's about the evidence, or lack thereof, for a creator. How many times do we have to keep saying this? Stop projecting. Please. Big smiley.
But welcome! Hopefully soon you can bring along wifey, and that would be most excellent.
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
Viv,
Nine months ago Looter pretended to be 17. Now he's almost 21.
At this rate of aging 3 years every 4 months he will be 30 in one year and an old man in approximately 4 years.
Oh, wait . . .
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
Orphan Crow,
That was profound. Well stated.
Thank you.
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
Looter, lay off the young guy nonsense. Based on one of your OPs you turned 18 five months ago. Now you are 20. How is your dad? Your mom? What music do you listen to? What's the name of your favorite groups? Songs?
If you are 18 or 20 you should be out hanging with friends, playing sports and chasing tail. WTF are you doing on this site talking about religion? And based on your bio you joined this site 3 years ago, when you were 15???
None of us are going to take you seriously until you give up the charade. We still won't take you seriously, but giving up the charade will help.
l know animals do it but their animals.they dont live by a moral code.the thought of 2 men going for it is not normal.what are your thoughts?.
I love the smell of justice in the morning:
South Africa bans anti-gay American pastor from visiting - Sep. 14, 2016 (CNN)South Africa banned a controversial American pastor and his associates from visiting, describing them as "undesirable persons" who criticize homosexuality and promote hate speech. Pastor Steven Anderson made headlines in the US after he praised the shooting that left dozens dead at an Orlando gay club in June.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/14/africa/south-africa-pastor-banned/index.html
NCAA to Relocate Multiple Championships from North Carolina for 2016-17 Season By Scott Polacek, Featured Columnist Sep 12, 2016, The NCAA on Monday announced its decision to relocate seven championships from the state of North Carolina because of civil rights concerns, per a statement on its official website:
Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore suspended over same-sex marriage order, By Ray Sanchez, CNN, Updated 6:45 PM ET, Fri September 30, 2016
(CNN)Alabama's chief justice Roy Moore was suspended without pay Friday for the rest of his term for directing probate judges to enforce the state's ban on same-sex marriage
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/30/politics/alabama-chief-justice-suspended/index.html
when you finally and officially exited the cult, whether it be by disfellowshipping, disassociating or fading - what was the first things you did that are considered "worldly"?.
for me, it was like crash landing on another planet that looked like earth but was completely different to the earth i knew.
i wanted to learn everything that i thought i already knew.. first things i did:.
Sane and sober. Kept being no. 1 dad. Made good decisions. Back to college for the next 5 years. Holidays. And lots and lots of girl parts.