Posts by Loris

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The "Critical Times" Con-Game - Dec. 15 Watchtower

by metatron in

"all this testifies that we are living in 'critical times'" - 2 tim.

3: 1-5 (dec. 15, 2003 wt pg.

they never get tired of repeating this deception, do they?.

Loris

" He said: "Look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, 'I am he,' and, 'The due time has approached.' Do not go after them" Luke 21:8

How many times have the WT said "The Time is at Hand"? (title of one of Russell's books)

If you do a search of the phrase 'Last Days' you can pretty much figure out that they were referring to the Temple Era being in it's last days.

Archangel01 Regardless of what the author of the 'Left Behind' series has written, you will not get away unscathed. Read and re-read Daniel 7:21-25 and Matthew 24:29-31 until it sinks in.

Matt 24 Dan 7

1) Tribulation 1) Harrassment of holy ones

2)Celesial darkness 2)Holy ones given into the hands of the harrassers

3)Sign of the Son of Man

4)Earth-wide lamentation

5)Son of Man visible on the clouds 3)Ancient of Days coming

6)Gathering of the 'Chosen Ones' 4)Ancient of Days deliver the Holy Ones

But no stress. Just "Be Excellent to each other" as Bill and Ted said. We do not know when it is all going down. Jesus said it wasn't our business to know. It is out of our hands. Our job is to just be nice.

Loris

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Sheep and Goats

by Waymores Ghost in

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if anyone can fill me in, i'd truly appreciate it.

a few days ago i came across a brief reference to changes that the wt made to the separation of the sheep and goat doctrine.

wg

Loris

SM62 You are exactly correct.

Old light = faithful dubs going door to door were helping Jesus separate the sheep and goats. Hence the afluent sections of our territory were called 'Goat Hill'

New light = dubs still have to go door to door but the separation will not happen until the final trumpet blast and Jesus does it then.

Hope that clears things up

Loris

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Born Here In This House

by Undecided in

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i went by the old house i was born in the other day and took a picture.

my grandparents lived here in 1936. it was 1:30 in the morning in one of the upstairs rooms.

it was the coldest feb 10 since that date, i wonder if i had anything to do with that?

Loris

It's funny what memories we hold on to.

About the only memory of my great uncle was when he got drunk and was hanging by his knees from the clothesline and my grandmother, his sister, was smacking him with the broom. All us cousins were rolling on the ground laughing.

I cherish those days.

Loris

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Ummm.......a question....

by ScoobySnax in

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my last post just got deleted, i think.

Loris

You may be paranoid but then again people may be really after you.

(((Scooby)))

Loris

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e-watchman responds!

by czarofmischief in

http://www.e-watchman.com/commentaries/nov_21_oblivion.html

this inane gibbering reveals the real motives behind e-watchman!

i will post my rebuttal of this bonehead's commentary in a minute.. czar

Loris

Likely the sect of Nicolaus accepted much of the teachings of the apostles but differed only in a few key doctrines?or perhaps just one. At any rate, the sect posed a very real spiritual danger to Christ's congregation.

And E-Watchman is different from the sect of Nicolaus how? He accepts much of the teachings of the WT and differs in a few. He is undermining the authority of the WT, seeking to have followers of his own.

Great thread!

Loris

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Hate to bring up Rand Cam again but something interesting I found...

by BONEZZ in

check out the new hotbottell me when this page is updated.

dale bradley robinson.

Loris

I have suggested that he join us here. Who knows he just may be lurking. He needs to experience the joys of freedom, too.

Loris

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Will The Brothers and Sisters Marry and Have Children in The New System?

by AwakenedAndFree in

i have a question for active elders, ex-elders and other bible experts regarding the following topic:.

will the brothers and sisters marry and have children in the new system?.

according to the watchtower, yes .

Loris

I came to the same conclusion as Oracroth when the wool was removed from my eyes. The Sadduccees were asking who the woman would belong to. Jesus said that she would not belong to any of her previous husbands. They would be like the angels, having only Jehovah as their head. At the time of ressurrection they would not be given in marriage to anyone. They did not ask about future prospects of marriage only about their narrow minded trick question.

By the way this brings up the question about where Jesus' audience thought the woman was to be resurrected?

Loris

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How many people did you personally bring into the truth?

by yxl1 in

are they still witnesses?

do you feel personally responsible?

have you made any attempt to correct their/your mistake?.

Loris

Three of my children. I took them with me when I left. They were as disgusted as I was.

Loris

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Did a 'major-event' cause you to join/leave JW?s?

by cyberguy in

it seems to me, many people become jw?s after a major event in their lives.

perhaps it is the death of a loved-one, such as a father, mother, child, wife, or husband.

on the other hand, it?s also my observation that a "major-event" often causes an active jw to rethink what they are doing with their life, whether they are really in the "truth," as jw?s call it.

Loris

A serious auto crash that I nearly died from caused me to search for God. The friendly elderly couple at my door helped to seal my fate.

Finding out that the child abuse/molestation problem was so widespread caused a crack in my WT armor. The UN issue was the straw that broke the camel's back. That was just more hypocracy than I could tolerate.

major events both ways.

Loris

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Did doctrine matter to you? Does it matter to most dubs now?

by nicolaou in

minimus started a great thread a few days ago asking what was "it" that finally made you leave the "truth"?.

the replies showed that, for the most part, it was the unloving, uncaring attitude displayed by most of the 'brothers & sisters' - elders particularly.

some posters even made the point that this lack of love drove them out despite them harbouring fears that they might actually be leaving the truth.

Loris

Doctrine mattered a great deal to me. Although like some have said I never believed in the goofy conventions as being a fulfillment of prophecy. As long as the basic core was something I could believe in the rest was ignored. When I found out about the UN I left because of the hypocracy. At that point I was then able to wipe the wool off my eyes and seriously examine the whole thing more objectively.

I don't think doctrine matters too much to most dubs. They are in it for the socialization and the belonging to something bigger that themselves.

Loris