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  Watchtower : 1917's Finished Mystery : " A powerful commentary"

  by AwakenedAndFree in

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  i am reading revelation it's grand climax at hand!

  published by the watchtower society and found these observations on page 165:.

  "similarly, christendom's leaders defied the bible students, saying that these had never graduated from theological colleges.

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  logansrun

  "Millions Now Living Will Never Die"?

  Nope. They're all dead.

  Bradley
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  The absolute stupidity of Christianity

  by logansrun in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so often people here confuse just what the real evil is.

  we think it is the theology and practices of the watchtower.

  neigh!

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  logansrun

  So often people here confuse just what the real evil is. We think it is the theology and practices of the Watchtower. Neigh! It is Christianity itself which is the far greater evil!

  Christianity is a religion of utter failure. From it's incipient stages as a group of Jewish outcasts to today's forms of fundamentalism it has accomplished none of it's most important objectives, proven none of it's original precepts, and is backed up by a canon of scripture which has absolutely no corresponding validity in science or logic. In short, it is a religion of nothing.

  Christianity teaches one to be ashamed of oneself. "Original sin" which can only be cured by an act which they say you didn't even deserve. It forces one to degrade the physical body with it's natural needs and desires and encourages a longing for a spiritual "reality" which has not an ounce of empirical evidence to back it up. The Christian replaces reason with faith.

  All progress for the individual Christian is impossible without some divine intervention. "We are sinners and must rely on God." Liar! Myth-maker! Any accomplishment a Christian does make is explained as the work of "the Lord" and not himself. Christianity is replete with "testimonies" to such: the alcoholic who quits drinking and says that she could not have done it "without Jesus"; the ex-smoker who discards his habit "through the power of prayer." Placebos all. One wonders if they have any form of self-esteem whatsoever. (To say nothing of self-actualization!)

  Furthermore, all progress for humanity as a whole is seen as impossible as well. From the time of Paul Christians have eagerly waited for the "Second Coming" of Christ who will be the real prognosticator for the betterment of humanity. Do not think for one instant that the JWs are devient, as far as Christianity goes, for their psychotic hunger for the destruction of everyone but them and a coming world of bliss. Don't blame CT Russel. Blame Paul. Blame Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They came up with the idea in the first place.

  One could go on. The record of the failure of Christianity is abysmal -- even without the sanguinary violence done in Christ's name. Don't think of the JWs as unusual. They're just another Christian ideology in the long and tired line of Christianities.

  The Antichrist,

  Bradley
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  *cough* *cough* *sniff*

  by tink in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uuuugh, i feel like i have one foot in the grave right now.

  i am soooo miserably sick it is unbelievable.

  i really thought i was going to die yesterday, i had this horrible raspy cough and a super high fever, you know the kind that makes you feel as if you're moving under water?

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  logansrun

  So I guess the sex is off between us then?

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  Marking.

  by Englishman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've heard the expression a few times here but have normally not taken much notice.

  i've been exited for 31 years and 4 months, well before the onset of elders, reproofs and marking.. i understand the first 2 but am all at sea about the the third.

  someone please tell me exactly what "marking" is and how one becomes marked or a marker.. or markee!

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  logansrun

  Here's the thing, though: "marking" is kind of congregational and kind of individual. How so?

  It's congregational: The elders decide to have a talke presented outlining the undesireable behavior and reviewing what it means to "be marked" --ie read 2 Thess. yadda, yadda. NO NAMES ARE NAMED.

  It's also individual: It is up to members of the rank and file to "figure out" who's being talked about and take heed. If someone is totally clueless as to what is going on, fine -- they will do whatever.

  So to say marking is 100% individual or 100% congregational would be misleading. It's in a weird limbo state.
  
  Of course, this adds an enormous amount of gossip into the "spiritual paradise" the JWs have. Hahahahahahahahahaha.

  Bradley
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  Mail theft

  by onacruse in

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  our apartment mail boxes just got raided last night.. <---cancelling credit card accounts.

  grrrrrrrrrrr.

  tis the season.

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  logansrun

  Damn, that sucks.

  ((((Craig and Kate))))

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  Marking.

  by Englishman in

  1. watchtower
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  i've heard the expression a few times here but have normally not taken much notice.

  i've been exited for 31 years and 4 months, well before the onset of elders, reproofs and marking.. i understand the first 2 but am all at sea about the the third.

  someone please tell me exactly what "marking" is and how one becomes marked or a marker.. or markee!

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  logansrun

  Excellent point Euph.

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  Marking.

  by Englishman in

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  i've heard the expression a few times here but have normally not taken much notice.

  i've been exited for 31 years and 4 months, well before the onset of elders, reproofs and marking.. i understand the first 2 but am all at sea about the the third.

  someone please tell me exactly what "marking" is and how one becomes marked or a marker.. or markee!

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  logansrun

  I believe the "marking" practice is derived from a few verses at the conclusion of 2nd Thessalonians.

  Bradley

  PS -- I KNOW it's a congregational decision because my "mentor" elder -- a sub-CO -- talked about when a "marking talk" is appropriate and when it is not.
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  What Do You Plan On Buying For Christmas Presents?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i want to give a few "presents" to some in my immediate family as well as a couple of friends.

  what's on your "wish list"?

  what do you plan on buying this year?

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  logansrun

  A lap dance.

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  Marking.

  by Englishman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've heard the expression a few times here but have normally not taken much notice.

  i've been exited for 31 years and 4 months, well before the onset of elders, reproofs and marking.. i understand the first 2 but am all at sea about the the third.

  someone please tell me exactly what "marking" is and how one becomes marked or a marker.. or markee!

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  logansrun

  Mulan.....um.....you're wrong! (But I still likes 'ya)

  Bradley
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  Marking.

  by Englishman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've heard the expression a few times here but have normally not taken much notice.

  i've been exited for 31 years and 4 months, well before the onset of elders, reproofs and marking.. i understand the first 2 but am all at sea about the the third.

  someone please tell me exactly what "marking" is and how one becomes marked or a marker.. or markee!

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  logansrun

  I believe you are mistaken, Mulan. It is a congregation action, although it is up to individuals to apply. Basically, it all depends on how perceptive the rank-and-file is. Make no mistake, though -- it is a congregation action.

  (Perhaps in your case it was individuals who decided to do their own personal "marking" without an official talk at the Hall.)

  Bradley