logansrun
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Did you look like a Jehovah Witness?
by JH inwere you ever told that you didn't look like a jehovah witness?
i never dressed like one of them unless i was at the hall.
i think that people looking at me would never have guessed that i was a witness.
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logansrun
Yep. Still do. I was at a "Ex-JW Meetup" a few months ago and a few people said I looked like I just got out of Bethel. I'm pretty Harvard-esque when it comes to how I dress, etc. I can't see that changing too much (I prefer it).
Bradley
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Advice on books to read up on please
by SpiceItUp indoes anyone have any reading recommendations for bible fallacies/contradictions etc??.
also i just ordered christ conspiracy by a. acharya after reading some wonderful reviews on it.. i was also interested if any of you had any opinions on :.
the encyclopedia of biblical errancy by c. dennis mckinsey .
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logansrun
Elaine Pagels, "The Origin of Satan" and "Adam, Eve and the Serpent" -- both excellent.
John Shelby Spong, "Rescuing the Bible From Fundamentalism" -- not too detailed, a good start, though
Any commentary in the Anchor Bible Commentaries series. You can usually find these at a library, especially a university one. They're quite expensive to buy, but were invaluable to me when I was trying to investigate the Bible from a strictly secular standpoint.
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Unusual statement in June 1, 2003 Watchtower
by Smiles inin the second study article of the june 1, 2003 watchtower, discussing how jehovah's witnesses should react when "gog of magog" (satan the devil) attacks them just before armageddon, page 21, paragraph 16 says, in part:.
how will god's servants react?.
"as never before, true christians will then need to place their confidence in fellow worshipers authorized by jehovah and his reigning king to take the lead.
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logansrun
Unique1,
Actually, all the members of the Governing Body claim to be annointed, nor did they step down from that position. What did happen a couple years ago was the GB resigned from the board of directors of the WTBTS. It was mainly a procedural change and essentially means nothing in terms of who the Society looks to as it's leaders -- it's still the GB, and they're still annointed (so they say).
Bradley
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There are no contradictions or inconsistencies!!
by greven ini found a funny site demonstrating the mental gymnastics employed by christian apologetics to refute contradictions.. .
enjoy!.
are there really contradictions in startrek?
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logansrun
Hilarious! I've noticed the same thing with the "Star Wars" trilogies...contradiction after contradiction between the original's and the prequals. Hopefully, any honest believer in the Force will see that the supposed "contradictions" are actually not contradictions at all...but really complementary!
Bradley
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logansrun
What aggrevates you most about cancer?
Seriously, though, I think the hyped up emotionalism and speculation that is passed off as actually being an intelligent argument is what ticks me off the most.
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Flashbacks of JW frustration...
by logansrun inthis post is going to be somewhat disconnected, my apologies.... for the first time in a long while, i'm really mad at this organzition.
you know, i had lost a lot of my "bitterness" a few months ago when i started to absorb myself in other activities.
lately, i feel like i've had a "delayed reaction" of sorts when it comes to my association with the jws.
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logansrun
Gee Minimus, thanks for the fricken bone!
Just kidding I know my post sounded "whiney"....it was. The answer is really pretty damn simple; it's just a matter of doing it. Funny, though, there is this vague "JWishness" that still is hard to shake. Not that I believe it or something, just a certain connectedness to it. No surprise, really. I did grow up in it so it will be with me for some time.
Thanks for letting me cry on your shoulders...now someone slap me and tell me to act like a man, for Crissake!
Bradley
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Flashbacks of JW frustration...
by logansrun inthis post is going to be somewhat disconnected, my apologies.... for the first time in a long while, i'm really mad at this organzition.
you know, i had lost a lot of my "bitterness" a few months ago when i started to absorb myself in other activities.
lately, i feel like i've had a "delayed reaction" of sorts when it comes to my association with the jws.
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This post is going to be somewhat disconnected, my apologies...
For the first time in a long while, I'm really mad at this organzition. You know, I had lost a lot of my "bitterness" a few months ago when I started to absorb myself in other activities. Lately, I feel like I've had a "delayed reaction" of sorts when it comes to my association with the JWs. It's a strange combination of anger, sadness, frustration and grief.
I'm twenty six years old and I feel like a teenager just out of high school with no where to go. That's sad.
My family is lost to this cult. I have three contacts in my life: my mother, my best friend and an ex-JW I correspond with from another state. I am really starting to get burned out. The loneliness and frustration at not being able to speak my mind (my mom's a JW, but to keep peace we don't bring this stuff up) is starting to really wear on me. I'm in college right now but am aggrevated that I should be [i]teaching[/i] the course instead of listening to it as a second-year undergrad.
It's funny. I have not so much as a shred of doubt that this is not "the true religion" or anything like that. I can pick up the latest WT, read it and either laugh or get angry at the bullsh!t passed off as "spiritual food." I'm comfortable about my decision to leave, and equally comfortable about not being part of any religion at all. I guess it's the subtle things that I'm starting to notice now. I don't know if anybody knows what I'm talking about, but there are just these subtle little reminders that I once was a JW. I almost cannot put it into words, it's just this lingering feeling. I don't judge the people around me at all, but I cannot shake the fact that I feel I'm different in some way, like I'm seperate. It's weird.
I really miss being part of a group. I miss talking to older people and little kids. For as much as this is a half-brain organization full of desperate people, I still miss the interaction. I miss saturday get-togethers with a group of people who share the same interests as I. This sounds so haughty, but I miss being looked up to. I have no desire to join a church (Christianity is nonsense, imho), but I must say that social cohesion is something they have that I desperately lack.
I should stop where I'm at. Remember the Godfather when Vito Corleone's godson is crying on his shoulder saying "What should I do? What should I do?" What did Marlon Brando say? "Well, you could start acting like a man!" slapping him to his feet. I need to be tough, but it's a whirlpool of frustration sometimes.
Forgive my rambling...not a good day.
Bradley
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Have you ever helped a JW out of the organization?
by logansrun ini know it's next to impossible, but has anyone had any success in persuading friends or family leave the wt?
currently, i'm not dfd or dad and i have a good relationship with my mother.
one other witness friend calls me every now and then.
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logansrun
I know it's next to impossible, but has anyone had any success in persuading friends or family leave the WT? Currently, I'm not DFd or DAd and I have a good relationship with my mother. One other witness friend calls me every now and then. Sometimes I would like to start showing them, with documentation (false prophecies, NGO affair, ludircrous statements), just how wrong this religion is. But, I fear the reprecussions this could lead to.
So, has anyone initiated a conversation with a JW who eventually left due to you? What worked? Conversely, what didn't?
Curious,
Bradley
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What's Your Opinion Of Charles Taze Russell?
by minimus inthe founder of tbe watchtower has been said to be a good christian man, "the faithful steward", a child molester, "the laodecian messenger", a fraud, and a number of other things.
when you became a witness, charles taze russell might have been downplayed or exalted, depending upon who was talking about him.
what is your opinion of the society's first president??
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logansrun
Well, he had the best looking beard this side of the Great Pyramid!
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