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  JW changes over time

  by larc in

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  as many of you know, i am 63, and left the religion about 40 years ago.

  i was raised in it and would like to explain what it was like compared to today.

  first of all, back in the mid to late 40's the patriotism of the u.s. was very high and the treatment at the door was very harsh.

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  logansrun

  Well, I'm 27, got baptized in '92 and let me tell 'ya.....

  he-he,

  Bradley
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  Did You Feel Pressured To Auxiliary or Regular Pioneer?

  by minimus in

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  a few times a year, the society really promotes pioneering.they will devote service meeting talks and parts stressing the need to regular or auxiliary pioneer.

  at the assemblies and at the district convention, they will try to shame you into pioneering.

  they give examples of 85 year old parapalegics that "made room in their lives" to pioneer.

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  Is the Pope Catholic?

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  My question to you who believe in eternal bliss/hell

  by logansrun in

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  whether jw or not, if you are a christian and believe in eternal reward/punishment i have a question for you: .

  how is it logical or fair that what one does in a finite realm will have infinite consequences?

  bradley

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  logansrun

  Euphemism,

  But what if you view death, not as a punishment, but as the natural destiny of mankind? In that case, some theoretical higher power might choose to reward a special, saintly group of people with eternal life, while letting everyone else die naturally. So a smoker and a murderer would both have the same destiny... but not as a punishment.

  The problem with this is that you are still relying on something finite (a good life) to get to something infinite (eternal life). Not only that, there is so much beyond one's control that it would be rather shortsighted to say that this is "simply a good person who should be rewarded." What if that exact same person were put through a series of situations which would cause them not to act in a noble manner? Conversely, what if one of the "normal" people, badass or otherwise less than saintly, were put through a series of situations which caused them to act in a manner that would be truly outstanding and "good"? Wouldn't it be justice to allow them the chance? )And, given the plasticity of human development, couldn't we all end up as saints?)

  So much of what happens to us and how we react is tenuous; we are given many parameters beyond our control. Even the greatest and most righteous person on earth is provisional. What sense does it make to reward them with something infinite?

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  Are Witness Children Brighter than most?

  by ApagaLaLuz in

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  the recent thread about the 5yr old baptized got me to thinking....... i learned to read at an early age.

  i was also in all the gifted classes in school.

  i remember a great deal of the witness kids were in gifted classes.

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  logansrun

  Tink,

  Bad day?

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  Are Witness Children Brighter than most?

  by ApagaLaLuz in

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  the recent thread about the 5yr old baptized got me to thinking....... i learned to read at an early age.

  i was also in all the gifted classes in school.

  i remember a great deal of the witness kids were in gifted classes.

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  Are we arguing Tink?

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  For a change, happy JW memories anyone?

  by ScoobySnax in

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  ....save the "the day i got out" posts, surely some here can dreg up some happy times of when they were witnesses, it can't all be negative.

  for me, i can remember some great people, some do's some co's some elders, some pioneers some just plain ol' publishers like me.

  come on everyone.......dig deep now.....

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  logansrun

  I once was out in service with this elder and he bought me a donut.

  There. Nice experience. Satisfied?

  Bradley
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  Are Witness Children Brighter than most?

  by ApagaLaLuz in

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  the recent thread about the 5yr old baptized got me to thinking....... i learned to read at an early age.

  i was also in all the gifted classes in school.

  i remember a great deal of the witness kids were in gifted classes.

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  Tink,

  No! I think you are mistaken, though. You related an experience you had. Dare I say you were not your typical braindead dub?

  Any Dub child that pursues a liberal arts education -- or one in the biological sciences -- is sure to be in something way over their head. This is not because they are "dumb" but simply are conditioned to not think a certain way, a way that college will require you to think.

  That's all I meant. No offense.

  Bradley

  PS -- You're still cute, though. ;)
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  Are Witness Children Brighter than most?

  by ApagaLaLuz in

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  the recent thread about the 5yr old baptized got me to thinking....... i learned to read at an early age.

  i was also in all the gifted classes in school.

  i remember a great deal of the witness kids were in gifted classes.

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  Tinkerbell:

  You're wrong.

  But, you're cute.

  Bradley
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  My question to you who believe in eternal bliss/hell

  by logansrun in

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  2. beliefs

  whether jw or not, if you are a christian and believe in eternal reward/punishment i have a question for you: .

  how is it logical or fair that what one does in a finite realm will have infinite consequences?

  bradley

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  logansrun

  Let's say you are a really bad guy. You cheat on your wife, ignore your kids, smoke, fudge on your taxes and pee in the whirlpool. You're a badass.

  JW version: You die at Armageddon and are eternally dead.

  Typical fundy version: You go to hell which, depending on how twisted you are, is either eternal "seperation" from God (whatever that means) or eternal torment complete with, as that wonderful, peaceful man Jesus put it, "weeping and gnashing of your teeth." Nice.

  But who's to say that you wouldn't change in a couple hundred years if given the chance? Who's to say that your "nature" is so "fixed" that you will always be a badass?

  Bradley
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  My question to you who believe in eternal bliss/hell

  by logansrun in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  whether jw or not, if you are a christian and believe in eternal reward/punishment i have a question for you: .

  how is it logical or fair that what one does in a finite realm will have infinite consequences?

  bradley

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  logansrun

  Whether JW or not, if you are a Christian and believe in eternal reward/punishment I have a question for you:

  How is it logical or fair that what one does in a finite realm will have infinite consequences?

  Think about it.

  Bradley