Posts by Laika

I live in London, I see them outside the tube station where I get off for work every single working day and occassionally outside various other stations. Really bugs me, I'm trying to forget about them ffs!

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Don't Miss the Meetings - Hebrews 10:24, 25 Re-examined

by Oubliette in

i recently got an unsolicited lecture from a well-intentioned but nevertheless misguided jw friend.

the gist of it was that i needed to go to all the meetings or i would miss out on "everlasting life.".

i responded that i do not need to go to meetings to have a relationship with god.

Laika

I rarely missed meetings, but I also didn't tend to listen much once I was there as I got bored and my mind drifted. Post-meeting I used to wonder whether this would count when it came to judgement day.

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I've got a gem for all of you....

by Newly Enlightened in

awake 1993 3/8 pg 15 pp 2. raisingsheepisourbusiness.

have you ever worn a woolen garment or bought a skein of wool?

did you ever stop to think where the wool came from?

Laika

Pretty sure the joke is that the same Watchtower Society who calls their followers sheep has an article calling them docile, timid and stupid.

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Witnesses: Why The 1/19/14 WT Lesson Is Dangerous

by Apognophos in

today's watchtower lesson touched on the history of hezekiah's reign, and then made a surprising modern-day application.

having used my time before the meeting to research the underlying material instead of highlighting my magazine, i personally found this to be an upsetting study, and decided to put this warning here in the hopes that some active witnesses read it.. the most important thing i want to say to you is that the actual flow of events in this bible account were severely misrepresented, and that there are some disturbing implications in the distortions that were made.

1. hezekiah's father ahaz makes himself a vassal to assyria out of fear of their overwhelming might (2 kings 16:7, 8).. 2. upon becoming king, hezekiah rebels against assyria (2 kings 18:7).

Laika

Great post, Watchtower has a habit of downplaying/ignoring the failures of several biblical characters because it makes it harder for them to hold out their impossible standards.

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Prayers that God answers. Any examples?

by punkofnice in

when i believed in god i tried not to pray for anything selfish.. after a while i began to think that a lot of things i was asking my imaginary friend in the sky for were selfish for some reason.. i do not ever remember a single thing i prayed for ever being answered.

if there was the appearance of an answer it was because i did mental gymnastics to make it fit the delusion that god had actually answered me.

there was never an obvious message/answer from god.

Laika

Punk, it's a very natural question that has certainly occurred to me (and him, incidentally) I don't have an answer and happen to agree that it makes no sense, though it doesn't really change the fact that something happened.

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Prayers that God answers. Any examples?

by punkofnice in

when i believed in god i tried not to pray for anything selfish.. after a while i began to think that a lot of things i was asking my imaginary friend in the sky for were selfish for some reason.. i do not ever remember a single thing i prayed for ever being answered.

if there was the appearance of an answer it was because i did mental gymnastics to make it fit the delusion that god had actually answered me.

there was never an obvious message/answer from god.

Laika

I think the most amazing example of a prayer I've seen "answered" was of a friend whose broken back was "healed" after prayer. He'd fallen off a cliff and suffered constant pain for about 6 months. The pain disappeared instantly during the prayer and has not come back. Shortly afterwards when he went for a scan (prior to a scheduled operation where he was told there was a small chance his spine would collapse and he'd never walk again) it was found that his spine had been perfectly fused together and he didn't need the operation. It was made all the remarkable to me (and him) that he'd resisted the prayer and been rudely forced into agreeing with it because he believed faith healing was nonsense.

Anyway, I'm not obstinately closed to alternative explanations and having been hesitant to share hope that any possible response is not to call my honesty and intelligence into question...

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The JW cart/booth nonsense

by Gypsy Sam in

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http://www.christianpost.com/news/battle-of-beliefs-baptist-evangelist-nation-of-islam-muslim-and-jehovah-witnesses-vie-for-souls-at-new-yorks-subway-stations-112512/.

will this wake any jw's up to how they have more in common with other sects than they believe?.

Laika

ADCMS, I agree that JWs constantly use that strategy but how often do the Society actually recommend it? I had never heard of it till I got on the net, I'm not sure it can be put entirely down to that?

What's funny is that JWs get so used to lying about their beliefs, they forget to turn it off when they speak to ExJWs who know they're lying, you see it all the time when people post conversations on here.

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My favourite JW books when I was a delusional.convert. Did you have any ?

by smiddy in

did you have any favourite books by the society when you were in ?not that this book was my fav.

yet it was the first book i read learning about jw`s.

" from paradise lost to paradise regained " i know , it was designed for the young , however my mentor thought that since i had no understaning of the bible it was what i needed.

Laika

I liked the proclaimers book, the greatest man book and tended to like the yearbooks. Pretty much hated all the prophecy books.