Where do the Protestants and JWs get off saying the wine and bread are symbols.
Good question. The NWT changing 'this is my body' to 'this means my body' is just wrong.
if a witness tells you that jesus commanded you to go to the memorial, how would you respond?.
Where do the Protestants and JWs get off saying the wine and bread are symbols.
Good question. The NWT changing 'this is my body' to 'this means my body' is just wrong.
all through my years as a jws and after i have always wondered about john 20:28 where thomas says "my lord and my god" to jesus.
i just could not find a suitable answer for this text to disprove the trinity doctrine.
i really never swallowed the jws intrepretation of "shock" by thomas something like "oh my god" but at the same time i had a gut feeling trinitarians were hiding something about this verse.
Most likely is that the elder just made the Greek argument up. It's really a simple verse. Thomas did not believe Jesus had rose from the dead. Jesus showed Thomas his wounds and Thomas response 'My lord and my god' was Thomas saying that his doubts had gone and he now believed. It was an affirmation of who Thomas believed Jesus to be, as if he was saying 'it really is you'
The JW elder has told me not one person from the Born-Again/Trinitarian community has been able to dispute this.
I bet he's never raised that with a real biblical Greek scholar.
when jws come around with their articles asking "is god cruel?
", i often point them to genesis 22:2:.
2 then god said, take your son, your only son, whom you loveisaacand go to the region of moriah.
Abraham was a bit of a coward, he twice abandoned his wife with strange men to save himself and then abandoned his first child to please his wife, did he ever stand up to anyone?
the jws have a cart at the train station near my work and today they're featuring the april watchtower and awake magazines.. have you seen these yet?
have the society discovered the worldly technique of using attractive cover models to sell their products or something?
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Band, did you know they change the picture depending on where the magazine is issued? So the swahili versions have black girls, for example.
when jws come around with their articles asking "is god cruel?
", i often point them to genesis 22:2:.
2 then god said, take your son, your only son, whom you loveisaacand go to the region of moriah.
It was a common belief at the time that the gods wanted child sacrifices, by having their god intervene the story showed the Jews that their god didn't approve of this act and they weren't to follow that ritual.
the jws have a cart at the train station near my work and today they're featuring the april watchtower and awake magazines.. have you seen these yet?
have the society discovered the worldly technique of using attractive cover models to sell their products or something?
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I don't remember that one caa.
Who decides who gets to be in the photos? Must be a fun job.
the jws have a cart at the train station near my work and today they're featuring the april watchtower and awake magazines.. have you seen these yet?
have the society discovered the worldly technique of using attractive cover models to sell their products or something?
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The JWs have a cart at the train station near my work and today they're featuring the April Watchtower and Awake magazines.
Have you seen these yet? Have the Society discovered the worldly technique of using attractive cover models to sell their products or something?
okay so i'm dating a born-in jw woman, she's younger than me and has no kids.
i'm a christian man whos divorced with 2 kids.
we're in love and seriously want to be together.
Hey Jonza
Have you thought about what you'll say when the Trinity doctrine comes up with your children? I accept it doesn't get mentioned often but it's still a fundamental part of Christian theology and will come up at some point, and I assume you don't want to tell your kids it's a false doctrine.
Will they be allowed to celebrate birthdays (which is more than just presents) Thanksgiving and Easter? If they're not allowed to celebrate Christmas does this mean school activities based around the holiday are out too?
as some of you know now im fairly new to ttatt so im still coming to grips with the fact that in my 24 years of life up to this point i have been in an organization that isnt the true religon that i believed.
im a very positve and optimistic person and have never been depressed while a youth in the "truth", but its still somewhat of a tough pill to swallow considering i gave up my dream of playing college basketball to get baptized when i was 18. and also the fact that armegeddon really isnt coming and i wont get to spend forever with my wonderful parents(who also know tthatt) and others close to me.. i also consider myself to have good social skills(that i developed during my rebelious years) although im somewhat of an introvert and always had "worldly" friends even when i was an ms but i im finding it tough to shake off the "all worldly people are bad" mentality that ive had for so long.
i guess my question is how long did it take you guys to get over everything and move on?
9 months out, still not figured it all out but you seem to have it much more together then me. :)
Start by finding a local basketball team to join, you can do what you love and will make friends with your teammates. Time around worldly people will change your opinion of them, just need to power through it.
Congrats on finding freedom!
i'm not suicidal just fed up.. i did think of suicide (briefly), but as there is no painless way and it's not something i would willingly do just in case things would have been better the day after.
i do have a slight grain of hope.. money problems.....problems at home (that's another matter with a son up court for something he is adamant he didn't do.
first offence but the pigs police and the cps have got charges made.
The last year has been the worst of my life, sometimes I wonder how I'll cope if I have to endure another year like this. It's hard, so hard.
I am trying to train myself not to look past the present day.
I hope you get there punk, wherever that is, and if you work it out please let me know. And I might be up in Peterborough for a wedding in August so would love to buy you a beer as well if I'm around.