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  Lifting the Veil on "Islamophobia"

  by cofty in

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  the late christopher hitchens decribed the word islamophobia as "created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.. please take half an hour to read a fascinating conversation between sam harris and ayaan hirsi ali.. ayaan is an apostate from islam.

  she fled to the netherlands in '92 to escape an arranged marriage and went on to become a member of the dutch government from 2003-2006.. ayaan is now a fellow with the future of diplomacy project at the belfer center for science and international affairs at the harvard kennedy school... she lives with round-the-clock security.. "some moderate muslims hate meand yes, thats a strong word, but i think what theyve said supports itbecause i make them feel uncomfortable.

  the things i talk about put them in a state of dissonance that they cant live with.

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  Laika

  Muslims much more likely to claim extremists misinterpret their scriptures then say they're wrong, in the same way evangelicals who support gay marriage tend to claim Paul is misunderstood rather than wrong.

  I'm not claiming there isn't a serious problem with fundamentalist Islam or that many of them aren't dangerous, and certainly many Muslim majority countries have many oppressive policies, but if we have benign religious Jews we can have benign muslims.

  Should be notable that the people on this thread who actually regularly interact with muslims are the ones defending them.
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  How has you life changed since leaving the Witnesses?

  by cantleave in

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  other than not wasting hours at meetings, assemblies and doing pointless activity.. for me the biggest difference has been my choice of employment, i could have never undertaken the job i do now when i was dub..

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  Laika

  Well, before I left the JWs I moved country, but probably wouldn't have done that if I'd not been struggling with doubts and wanted to escape family pressures.

  I got promoted a few months ago and would have had to turn that down as a JW, too much overtime. I could have been used at an assembly!

  Much more diverse social group.
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  Lifting the Veil on "Islamophobia"

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  the late christopher hitchens decribed the word islamophobia as "created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.. please take half an hour to read a fascinating conversation between sam harris and ayaan hirsi ali.. ayaan is an apostate from islam.

  she fled to the netherlands in '92 to escape an arranged marriage and went on to become a member of the dutch government from 2003-2006.. ayaan is now a fellow with the future of diplomacy project at the belfer center for science and international affairs at the harvard kennedy school... she lives with round-the-clock security.. "some moderate muslims hate meand yes, thats a strong word, but i think what theyve said supports itbecause i make them feel uncomfortable.

  the things i talk about put them in a state of dissonance that they cant live with.

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  Laika

  Religious people can be very inconsistent. My JW brother-in-law shares cigars with me from time to time, gambles, drinks way too much and talks to disfellowshipped friends, but still attends meetings and gets upset when I say anything 'apostate'.

  I have no doubt that Ayaan has suffered, I'd never downplay that as an ExJW but people like Sam Harris have an agenda that forces them to buy into a kind of simplistic thinking that needs to categorise people imo.
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  Lifting the Veil on "Islamophobia"

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  the late christopher hitchens decribed the word islamophobia as "created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.. please take half an hour to read a fascinating conversation between sam harris and ayaan hirsi ali.. ayaan is an apostate from islam.

  she fled to the netherlands in '92 to escape an arranged marriage and went on to become a member of the dutch government from 2003-2006.. ayaan is now a fellow with the future of diplomacy project at the belfer center for science and international affairs at the harvard kennedy school... she lives with round-the-clock security.. "some moderate muslims hate meand yes, thats a strong word, but i think what theyve said supports itbecause i make them feel uncomfortable.

  the things i talk about put them in a state of dissonance that they cant live with.

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  Laika

  You added 'I think in some ways' to the beginning of your quote, sorry, I thought you might be implying something but it was obviously an error, no worries.
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  Lifting the Veil on "Islamophobia"

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  the late christopher hitchens decribed the word islamophobia as "created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.. please take half an hour to read a fascinating conversation between sam harris and ayaan hirsi ali.. ayaan is an apostate from islam.

  she fled to the netherlands in '92 to escape an arranged marriage and went on to become a member of the dutch government from 2003-2006.. ayaan is now a fellow with the future of diplomacy project at the belfer center for science and international affairs at the harvard kennedy school... she lives with round-the-clock security.. "some moderate muslims hate meand yes, thats a strong word, but i think what theyve said supports itbecause i make them feel uncomfortable.

  the things i talk about put them in a state of dissonance that they cant live with.

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  Laika

  They treat woman as equals, yes. Why did you misquote me?
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  Lifting the Veil on "Islamophobia"

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  the late christopher hitchens decribed the word islamophobia as "created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.. please take half an hour to read a fascinating conversation between sam harris and ayaan hirsi ali.. ayaan is an apostate from islam.

  she fled to the netherlands in '92 to escape an arranged marriage and went on to become a member of the dutch government from 2003-2006.. ayaan is now a fellow with the future of diplomacy project at the belfer center for science and international affairs at the harvard kennedy school... she lives with round-the-clock security.. "some moderate muslims hate meand yes, thats a strong word, but i think what theyve said supports itbecause i make them feel uncomfortable.

  the things i talk about put them in a state of dissonance that they cant live with.

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  Laika

  I suppose up in a place like Northumberland where there are very few muslims it might make sense to talk of concepts like 'the myth of moderate muslims' but when you live in big multicultural city like London it comes across as a bit daft to be honest. I work with muslims, I play sports with them, I even drink beer with a few of them, plenty of moderate & liberal muslims in my community!
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  "Organized Religion" as per WBTS - Awake! July 2014

  by bats in the belfry in

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  russell 's asking of hs in this matter was certainly not of the same quality as today's spirit-guided knowledge and understanding of the gb.. what do you make of it?.

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  Laika

  The Watchtower leadership allow Jehovah very little capacity for forgiveness, lots of things you must do which Jehovah cannot let slide. Well, when it suits them of course, when it comes to the mistakes the WT leaders make, well, that is forgiven, we're all imperfect after all!
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  I had a funny feeling he was a Witness... and now I need help.

  by noontide in

  1. jw
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  im in a bit of a bind and im not quite sure what (if anything) i can do about it.

  i was recently hired as a business consultant for a rather large company.

  the company that hired me mentioned that they are concerned about a certain department and the way its being run, as this department affects every other department in the company.

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  Laika

  You can say you don't think his personality is suited to the role without explaining why, you're a consultant not a psychologist.
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  Did Any Atheist/Agnostic Revert Back to Their Former Beliefs?

  by Space Madness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  are their any former atheist/agnostic on here who reverted to christianity or a belief in god.

  i became an atheist back in july and it was the most unfulfilling depressive period of my life.

  i'm now starting to rebuild my relationship with god and i'm already starting to feel a lot better.

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  Laika

  I think Perry took that route. Are you rebuilding your relationship with God through the Watchtower?

  I know you were struggling Space Madness so I'm pleased for you and hope you find some peace.
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  Trinitarians! Who is Jesus Christ's father the Holy Spirit or the Father?

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is one question that trinitarians try to avoid because they have created a very embarrassing problem.

  the bible is very clear when the angel tells mary that holy spirit will overshadow her and she will become pregnant.

  the angel does not say the father will overshadow her but the holy spirit will and if the holy spirit is a person that would make him the father of jesus.

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  Laika

  I find it a bit irritating that booker-t turns up on this board every couple of weeks and starts a few new threads (usually against born agains) which he rarely seems to revisit, perhaps doesn't even read.