supposing that you might say that you believe in god, how might a god of love, show that he really cares about us all?.
And why have you falsely accused me of making a personal insult?
The implication that I'm indoctrinated wasn't meant to be insulting? I know your usual style is to try to shock people out of what you perceive to be their irrationality but I think we've engaged enough times to know that I deserve better than that...
As I said to eva I don't want to take this thread off topic by turning this into an atonement debate, perhaps I will start a topic on it when I have more time.
Have a nice day Bill.
supposing that you might say that you believe in god, how might a god of love, show that he really cares about us all?.
War makes me sick too Eva luna, but except for the hint (erm... Thanks?) I don't really understand what point you're trying to make? Sorry...
Anyway, I was just teasing in my first post, don't want to rip minimus' thread off topic.
supposing that you might say that you believe in god, how might a god of love, show that he really cares about us all?.
Cofty, Ever considered you might be so keen to go on your heresy hunting that you jump into your lectures without first seeking to understand what anyone actually believes? Because Calvin's 15th century version of the atonement is the only way to read the gospel stories.
I thought you didn't do personal insults?
supposing that you might say that you believe in god, how might a god of love, show that he really cares about us all?.
Dying for someone else is a strange concept? There's a reason we honour our war dead.
supposing that you might say that you believe in god, how might a god of love, show that he really cares about us all?.
By dying for you?
do you believe it's inerrant?
do you believe it's based on things that happened, but a lot of it may just be stories and it's not perfect because men wrote it?
do you think it's just a good guide?
The bible is like a conversation about God. All the authors of the OT believed Israel had been given a special vocation by their god Yahweh, but they understood that calling in different ways. So for example, Proverbs tells us if we keep god's laws we will be blessed, Job tells us this is not always true, they worship the same god but have contrasting theologies.
The NT tells us Jesus is the final point of the conversation. The purpose of the bible is to point to him and it can then be read back through him, and that is how we understand the conversation and which parts should be affirmed.
Just my 2 pence. :)
i have an unspoken rule that if someone ever invites me to a church - that i haven't been to before - i will go.
even though i'm an atheist i'm still interested in the experiance.
just like i'm not into basketball but i would like to go to a game sometime to feel the energy of the crowd.. growing up as a jw i've never set foot in another church.
All ExJWs should go to Church, even if you don't believe, it's a good way to get over those ingrained Watchtower fears and discover the lies the Watchtower told us about 'Christendom'
sorry for such a depressing question, but i was moved by a picture i saw of the consequences.
( a woman carrying her child) and i realised:-.
a) it was a civillian population.. b) i don't see how a nuclear holocaust can ever be right.. c) they could have bombed tokyo where all the generals lived but chose hiroshima.. d) the irony after the bombing america conceeded to many of japans terms.. your opinion would be valued..
You're absolutely right. We should just leave ISIS alone and let them continue to spread...
Because the only options to the ISIS problem are to drop an a-bomb or to do nothing.
I suspect you might have more of a problem if you and your family were the ones who were unfortunate enough to live under a terrorist organisation or drug cartel...
sorry for such a depressing question, but i was moved by a picture i saw of the consequences.
( a woman carrying her child) and i realised:-.
a) it was a civillian population.. b) i don't see how a nuclear holocaust can ever be right.. c) they could have bombed tokyo where all the generals lived but chose hiroshima.. d) the irony after the bombing america conceeded to many of japans terms.. your opinion would be valued..
But Alpha Man, your decision would kill a lot of innocent civilians who hate ISIS as much as you do, or probably more, since they actually suffer under them.
You should have a problem with it!
sorry for such a depressing question, but i was moved by a picture i saw of the consequences.
( a woman carrying her child) and i realised:-.
a) it was a civillian population.. b) i don't see how a nuclear holocaust can ever be right.. c) they could have bombed tokyo where all the generals lived but chose hiroshima.. d) the irony after the bombing america conceeded to many of japans terms.. your opinion would be valued..
Only by divorcing it from Romans 12. Better off blaming whoever came up with those chapter divisions. :)
