Frazzled, it's first weekend in August.
My brother could have stayed with me which is 30 minutes from Twickenham but he has to stay in a hotel because I'm an evil apostate. Ah well.
Posts by Laika
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17District Assembly arrangements 2014.
by quellycatface inmy jw mother drives me nuts.
she lives in quite a cut-off part of the uk and this year, is expected to travel to hq (rugbyfans), aka twickenham.
she's great to make the trip, it's like a spiritual holiday for her.. i said i thought it ridiculous and unreasonable for the gb to expect people to travel that far and pay for accommodation near london.
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Jehovah doesn't like laws!
by Separation of Powers ini was speaking to a friend who went to the circuit assembly a couple weeks ago.
he actually taped a portion of the first talk cause he said the do was pretty entertaining.
the do said something like - jehovah doesn't like laws.
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Laika
If you get punished for not following a principle, then that principle is actually a law.
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Being an Atheist Is Bad For Your Health
by Space Madness ini stopped believing in god in july 2013. in the first 3 months or so i felt liberated and relieved that i can live my life anyway i wanted without worrying about an invisible being watching my every move.
i also felt slightly superior that i was able to figure out that god isn't real while the majority of mankind continued to be fooled.
atfer the feelings of excitment statrted to wear off, i started to become more depressed and empty.
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Laika
Space Madness
Though I am not an atheist, the more I think about this thread the more it worries me that you feel empty, depressed and suicidal and possibly think this is inevitable now you're an atheist. This board is a living testimony to the fact that you can be an ExJW atheist living a good life. Please don't give up hope and don't be afraid to seek professional help if you need it.
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Being an Atheist Is Bad For Your Health
by Space Madness ini stopped believing in god in july 2013. in the first 3 months or so i felt liberated and relieved that i can live my life anyway i wanted without worrying about an invisible being watching my every move.
i also felt slightly superior that i was able to figure out that god isn't real while the majority of mankind continued to be fooled.
atfer the feelings of excitment statrted to wear off, i started to become more depressed and empty.
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Laika
I can see how being an atheist could lead to more issues with loneliness than those who have a ready made religious community, particularly if they're post religious. Meanwhile, since this is clearly not just theoretical for Space Madness I think it might be helpful if some of the atheists here gave SM some advice on how to find contentment where he's at.
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An important question for active JW's
by Honesty inif you and a fellow jehovah's witness went to a house where the homeowner brought up a watchtower doctrine which you secretly disagree with, would you defend it or tell them what it is you really believe?.
either way you are at a loss.. defending something you disagree with is living a lie and telling a lie.
not defending it and telling the home owner what you really believe makes you an apostate by watchtower society standards.
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Laika
When I left the JWs I said to a couple that even if I was wrong that JWs don't have the truth then since I am required to lie to promote it I've got no chance of getting through Armageddon anyway. Never got a direct response to that...
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Being an Atheist Is Bad For Your Health
by Space Madness ini stopped believing in god in july 2013. in the first 3 months or so i felt liberated and relieved that i can live my life anyway i wanted without worrying about an invisible being watching my every move.
i also felt slightly superior that i was able to figure out that god isn't real while the majority of mankind continued to be fooled.
atfer the feelings of excitment statrted to wear off, i started to become more depressed and empty.
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Laika
I find it genuinely surprising that you were happier as a JW, but mostly I'm sorry you're going through a tough time right now and I hope you can find some meaning. :/
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What is the holy spirit, jw style compared to other churches??
by quellycatface inpicking your brains and your opinions here guys.
thank you..
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Laika
In the entire history of the church nobody has ever explained the trinity without contradicting themself or resorting to double-talk.
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What is the holy spirit, jw style compared to other churches??
by quellycatface inpicking your brains and your opinions here guys.
thank you..
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Laika
Most churches will teach something similar to the Athanasian Creed:
And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons; nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity.
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How often do you see the Witnesses out on the ministry?
by rory-ks ini only ask because i hardly ever see them out on the ministry.
it is a very rare sighting to spot them actively engaged in the house to house ministry.
or out on the street work, in the marketplace, etc.. the other reason i ask is because they are constantly pictured as being on the preaching work.
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Laika
5 days a week I see them standing outside the train station near my work. Every chuffing day!
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Where is Jesus according to the WBTS?
by Frazzled UBM ini have been reverse witnessing to a witness at work who i told about my witness wife.
i think he thinks he is well on his way to make me a study but i have asked him to provide evidence that the wbrts is what it claims to be by reference to how it was appointed and how the current gb came to inherit that authority.
but one issue we ahd was the position of jesus accordign to the wbts and he said that he sits in heaven at the right hand of jehovah planning the future.
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Laika
The invisible return is an odd phrase that doesn't quite fit the doctrine, it basically means Jesus was made king in Heaven in 1914, which might be where he tries to take the discussion.
I might point him to the end of Matthew where Jesus says he has been given all authority (past tense) and will be with his disciples till the end of the age (present tense) and ask what the difference between his presence and authority in the first century is as compared to 1914.