i have read thousands of posts on this forum, and i am finding with all your experiences that however hard we try, it's difficult to actually get a family member or friend to disassociate themselves.
after all, some of us are still "active jw's", right?.
but, i have been noticing that some seem to have accomplished enough with questions and comments that at least their family members or friends are less active as jw's.
I agree with Blondie that it only works with people that already have a few cracks in their armour. Hubby however, as been successful with one family that has completed left. and together we have helped a good friend who also took "french leave" as we say in Canada.
For the most part, trying to educate someone has always landed me in the back room of the hall
i was usually honest about my hours for the most part.
but there was this one time..... i was auxiliary pioneering back in april of 2000. that was also the month we had planned to go down to south carolina to visit my brother, was living there at the time.
the trip was the last week of the month.
for every hour..I count 3.
last week during bible highlights, a sister commented on leviticus 19:28 about not having a tattoo.
i also commented, saying that we are not under the law, but the principle should be taken into consideration.. a sister i don't speak with very often called me.
she is in the same congregation as some of my family.
Hi Bonafide, from personal experience .......I think you are wasting your time and energy. Don't forget most jw are brain dead when it comes to thinking things out in a logical way.
The last year or so, I've been escorted to the back several times because I made some comments that didn't have the faithful slave sound. Recently was told by elder to keep conversations on the weather.
the spain branch, now will pay directly to: bethelites, special pioneers, circuit, district and missionaries... with our money!
the congregations must not given money to the full time ministers.
the governing body bank wants to have all money in its hands.
If not, why is this so controversial? Seems like a reasonable business decision to
But watchtower is not your regular business. There will be something in it for them. I think they will charge the congregation more that the actual expense reported by CO and others.
i think that some people deserve to be excommunicated, such as pedophiles.
but what about the tens of thousands of others that have their life wrenched out from under them by being disfellowshipped?.
and what about those that have a family member that died because of not receiving a blood transfusion?
Reeina says:
bonafide is firmly placing the blame for our actions and choices at the feet of the wt, but were is anyone acknowledging that they themselves have made the choice to become a witness to get baptised?Just so you know Reeina, I and many many others on this board did not have the opportunity to make a choice. Many of us were born into it, brainwashed from very early impressionable years. I was not taught critical thinking skills. Now that I have finally understood, I am making an informed choice. But I will tell you that watchtower has warped me in many ways. It was warped you too, but you don't even realize it, yet.
you look though the yellow pages and find a job you then apply getting a full info on what is involved and you take the offered job, if it doesn't work out wasn't the choice yours in the first place?Yes but I can back out of the job and find another. You cannot do this with the jw faith. and you know it. I dare you to go to your elders and inform them, that you have decided to look elsewhere now and see what will happen. Or better yet, if you are so broad minded and feel that you know something that we don't, tell you elders that it's your choice to be on this so -called apostate forum. I would love to hear if you will change your tune when it touches your flesh.
It's easy to blame others the hard thing is accepting you yourself made the choice and so need to take some responsibility if that life didn't suit you and you no longer agree with the doctrine. This statement lacks maturity and obviously you have many things to learn.
i think that some people deserve to be excommunicated, such as pedophiles.
but what about the tens of thousands of others that have their life wrenched out from under them by being disfellowshipped?.
and what about those that have a family member that died because of not receiving a blood transfusion?
I wouldn't say that my life is completely ruined. I wont allow watchtower to run the remaining years of my life. But, I have many regrets. Watchtower almost left me childless and uneducated. I look back at the my life and feel that I wasted the best part of my years banging on doors. (20 years of regular pioneering). Like many here, I can't get those years back. I am very angry that a man made organization led me like a puppet for most of my life. don't put your monkey rench in peoples feelings and experiences.
Bonafide, I follow your threads carefully, although I don't always post. Thanks for all your imput here.
And REENIA, please dont put your monkey rench in people's feelings and experiences. YOu really get on my nerves
i am not the oldest but have 3 years here!
restrangled.. how about you?.
2002 was my rebirth.
have i missed the boat?
never thought the system would go on so i would never face this situation....problem is my mum always told me how i was the firstborn after 4 baby deaths {this really messed her up and scared me} me and my sister who is married and 30 have had no kids....no grandkids for my family.
i'm financially well off, and without kids i spend money on whatever i want and have pets but....still feels abit empty.
Witness007, go for it. You are not too old.
for the uk it was 275 (that they're willing to declare anyway).
i don't know how that compares with last year.. how about in your country?.
There is no mention of either memorial attenders or partakers in the US version of the July KM DITTO FOR CANADA
saw this on e-watchman's discussion forum: http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3133&pid=34199&st=0&#entry34199.
anyone know if it's true?
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Interesting! I wonder if its time for another 1980 defection
