Reenia says: forensic evidence that leads to a conviction is allowed as the second witness from what I know.
Wanna says : I don't think so darling. They want 2 flesh and blood witnesses. You should update yourself a little better
i'm passing this along from someone else on another discussion board.
the claim of any substantive change in the policy on pedophiles is news to me.
can anybody verify or falsify this claim?.
Reenia says: forensic evidence that leads to a conviction is allowed as the second witness from what I know.
Wanna says : I don't think so darling. They want 2 flesh and blood witnesses. You should update yourself a little better
as most people here know the combined book study allows an evening for "family worship".. the co visits march - august 2009 is really focussing on this.
if a jdub family head doesn't do a full evening of family worship and uses this time to do recreational activities he is as guilty as isrealite who didn't use the sabbath for worship.
the result, will of course be same as the unfaithful isrealite, death!!!!!!!!!
one of the local elders said that "family worship evening" is a REQUIREMENT.
99% of jw's have no idea whats allowed and whats banned - too complex.. so most jw's tick the i accept nothing box.
this from an hlc member i spoke with some time back.
just to be on the 'safe' side, ironically.. anyway imagine the number of dead jw's there would be if this was allowed to run its course.. so imho part of the hlc raison d'etre is to make sure jw's take the blood fractions they are 'allowed'.. thoughts?.
I'm glad this thread has been resuscitated. I have long come to the conclusion that the goverving body wants the rank and file to take fractions and by extention HLC are there to see this through.
In the newest study book "keep yourselves in god's love" page 217 it asks this question regarding the acceptance of blood fractions. It reads:
AM I AWAY THAT REFUSING ALL MEDICAL PROCEDURES INVOLVING THE USE OF MY OWN BLOOD MEANS THAT I WOULD NOT ACCEPT A BLOOD TEST, HEMODIALYSIS, OR A HEART-LUNG BYPASS MACHINE?".
In other words, what mother is saying is : If you don't take fractions this is what will happen.
I've also sensed that the elders are taking a "don't ask--don't tell" stance when it comes to blood products.
As a side note--I believe that at least here in Canda, HLC is now know as Hospital Information Services.
albert, check your PM
i just had a chat with a friend i haven't seen for a while.
he knows we're inactive.
he was trying to encourage us by relating what he heard at the convention, saying "the end is near" and then proceeded to tell me that what stood out the most was how many times the society emphasized "family worship" night at the convention.. it got me thinking, why did they get rid of the book study arrangement in private homes if they're so keen on forcing people to have family worship night?
I've noticed too the great emphasis on a "family worship evening".
Its being pushed down every dubs throat. What they don't talk about is the FAMILY STUDY. Is the family worship evening to replace that?. There has not been one mention of the family study since this "new" arrangement has been in effect.
i wanted to draw attention as to how a new poster worded the opening to their thread.. .
with renia now gone i feel more confident to tell my story without being belittled.. .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/179341/1/my-story-my-sins-and-their-consequences.
A composite? I think you could very well be right. (And I don't think "she" is the first one. ) This is a possible theory, it may explain some of her posts.
i wanted to draw attention as to how a new poster worded the opening to their thread.. .
with renia now gone i feel more confident to tell my story without being belittled.. .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/179341/1/my-story-my-sins-and-their-consequences.
but they do not deserve to be hounded away and insulted for feeling the way they do.
This is true, but Rennia cared nothing for the feeling of others. She just hijacked thoughtlessly as many threads as she possibly could. It appeared to me she played the contrarian for the sheer fun of it and to get under people's skin. Just my 2 cents worth.
awildflower, her husband and i took betty to penn square mall on sunday ... .
treating betty to a massage chair before shopping.. .
betty with her new jacket .... .
SACOLTON ---you are a sweetheart!!!!!
hello ex-elders, onthe wayout, snakes, and wilyloman, just to refresh about a month ago i told you all that the appeal committee had overturned the disfellowshipping decision by the original jc as the appeal committee got a hold of me by phone and told me the society gave them direction in this.
i have since explained the situation to my witness mom and dad, 80 &82, they are good with it.
i am taking copies of the counsel you ex elders gave to me to be careful about what i say at this "alleged encouragement" meeting and promise you this, i'll watch my words carefully when they ask me questions.
Hi Mr. Flipper, I always enjoy your posts and this thread was of particular interest to me. My hubby(goes by name apocalypse) and I faces a similar situation with local elders.
I believe it takes great courage to do what you did for the sake of your family. I know it did for us.
Please continue to post for the sake of those of us a little more reserved.
WOW. That name brings back memories. I remember him from the early 80's, where he was invited to give a talk at the Norval Assembly Hall, near the Canadian branch. He seemed like a nice well spoken man. He was old at that time.
My family has his talks on tape somewhere. I'm very interested to know what has really happened to him.