Posts by RevFrank

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Expelled for studying the Bible with JW's!

by Bonnie_Clyde in

the september 1, 2005, wt, page 26, reported that mennenite families in bolivia were expelled from their religion.

"this was a cruel blow indeed.

the cart belonging to the colony cheese factory passed by the home of one family without collecting their milk, denying them their only source of income.

RevFrank

Howdy EZEKIEL3..could you give me your references on your story on the mennonites that you wrote, because I know the mennonites were, at one time, part of the Amish clan.

I'm from the Pennsylvania mountains called the Poconos in which many of the folks around there were or still called the Pennsylvania Dutch...meaning many of us were of the Amish, then over time many seperated from the Amish and were called mennonites

The Amish, along with the Mennonites are all considered christian due to the fact of what has been called Born-Again.

The Anabaptists do believe in adult baptizing, according to scriptures, and were along with the Amish and Mennonites movements.

Amish A very conservative Christian group which broke away from the larger Anabaptist movement in the Alsace region in France during the late 17th century. Most Amish now live in the U.S. and Canada -- largely in Indiana, Ohio and Pennsylvania. They isolate themselves from the larger American/Canadian culture .......(religioustolerance.com){references}

http://www.thirdway.com/menno/glossary.asp?ID=55 As for the Mennonites it would be better to click the link for info. And the link is also the references on the mennonites.....

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Why One "Inspired" Bible...but endless "literature" about it?

by upside/down in

"christians" are so proud of their one bible... the most widely distributed...blah blah blah...and thus it must be "god's" word.... yet the wts (in particular) is constantly producing new "literature"...why?.

can't they comment on what they "know" about a certain scripture and leave it at that...i mean how much real "new light" is there?.

they just rehash the same old crap over and over.... cheeezus...print one book...and then just "revise" it as needed... oh wait...i thought they had one book...the bible.... why do the interpretations need interpretation...???.

RevFrank

As I understand it the book called the Bible is not inspired......yet scriptures, as we should understand it, the writtings are....

I have several bibles and in different languages. I use these to compare them with others. Basically most bibles agree with one another.Plus I have a copy of ,"new worlds translation of the holy scriptures, " and the, "Holy Quraan." Neither are the bible.

But then again to create a bible which means many smaller collections of scrolls collected as one book. There's the Santntic Bible," yet it's not called a bible by many religious bible readers...

My faith is based on Christ.....therefore my final authority is the Holy Bible.

These men of Christ's day..Matthew Mark, Luke, John, and Paul were Christ's follewers and were inspired,"God's breathed," by God to write and teach on Christ and who He was.

The jews knew Christ as a good Godly prophet....Those of the Qurann tell us that Christ was one of many of God's sons.

Yet it is told of us that we should put our faith in Christ....Even Elijah in 1 Kings 18:21, tell us to decide on God or Baal. It's all up to us.

So in other words when we say that the Bible is inspired this can be so....the translation? No. Peter tells us this....2 Peter 1:20, " knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation." Does the Watchtower have their own private translation?

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WT Article on Mennonites - Wow... Double Standards

by indoubt in

i usually don't read wt or awakes, but i stumbled on an article that shows the borg's two-facedness.. the article talks about a group of mennonites that had doubts about their religion and wanted to study with the jws.

after the first paragraph, i realized that i had felt exactly like those poor mennonites when i decided to study the jw's history.

let me explain... i have scanned some parts of the articles: .

RevFrank

I feel sorry for those Mennonites..but facts are facts.....In the 15th century a catholic brother, calmly called a Monk, took God's name, "ha-A-don," from Hebew scriptures Malachi, ( The Interlinear Bible Hebrew-Greek-English) and put Latin letters and added a few valves and called it jehovah.

Russell took that and called it Jehovah. So the Mennonites and Watchtower is wrong. The Watchtower didn't come up with it. The Catholic Church did.

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REGRETS and how I handle them.

by RevFrank in

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hello friends.......

i've been reading stories on, i should have done, , or i shouldn't have done, which to me turn to regretting it ever took place or not.

just thinking on what was or what we haven't done can bring anger, or frustration to mind.

RevFrank

Hello friends.......

I've been reading stories on, I should have done, , or I shouldn't have done, which to me turn to regretting it ever took place or not. Just thinking on what was or what we haven't done can bring anger, or frustration to mind. For some it can bring tears to the fore front.

Over the years I've done plenty or I haven't done enough to alter things in my life for a good out come. Many years back a friend of mine asked me a simple question, " Do I regret anything that could be a bad experience that bring up shame even in my future thoughts?

I thought about it, because I had many regrets....especially never trying to get rich.

AS I was thinking about those regrets I realized I could alter any or all of those regrets by really learning about them and over coming those regrets by looking at it from a positive poisition.

Now I was never a baptized witness. But of course my ex-wife was and I thought it would be neat if I became one. But after a year or two of studying I realized I wound up with more questions then even the Elders couldn't answer, yet at the same time, I was considered a witness by many. At the time there were 45 questions and 3 sessions with 15 questions and I was up to my last 15 questions when I asked an Over Seer, who was giving me my 15 questions....About the Mediatorship.

HE asked me where I got that information? I wnt into the issue that at one time the Watchtower believed that Christ was the Mediator for all and wouldn't never change. Then I questioned him about 1 John 5:1, where John told all that the word, "WHOEVER..believes that Jesus Christ is the Christ is born of God."......The Over Seer cancelled the meeting. I never finished those 45 questions.

Because my ex-wife sided with me, she was Dfd. Then I went on the War Path and discovering I was right.......Now did I regert not becoming a witness? At that time, yes. But later I ralized I could take that regret and turn it over and make it work for me. Years later I was Ordained a christian minister as a Reverend and began my life as a Born-Again-Christian-Minister on the field of Apologetics.

Every regret I ever can recall I used to bring out a positive approach towards my ministery. Now what does the Watchtower Society hate more then a former member teaching true christianity? A Born Again Christian, who was there and being a Christian minister.

The witnesses base their ministery basically on Matthew 5:5...yet they over look one important passage in Matthew 5 and that's verse 11 which says..." Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake."

Who's sake? Christ's sake. And one more that on that............

"But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be Witnesses to Me, in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria and to the ends of the earth."(Acts 1:8) Who's witness, but Christs.

So to this day I can truthfully say I have no regrets on any issue. And once more Being Christ's slave I embrace forevermore.............Peace be with you always....

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How do you deal with regret?

by sonnyboy in

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i'm wondering if anyone here has devised good techniques for handling regret.. i've been thinking about high school a lot lately, and "what could have been" is eating away at me.

i still had the dub mentality, and i didn't really associate with many people.

i was constantly called a 'snob' because i kept to myself, and i had people asking me to do things after school all the time, people who could have been life-long friends.

RevFrank

I believe I'll write an article on regret. Many folks out there seem they can't get through regrets, especially on either becoming a witness or being lost in a world of watchtower regrets.

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Way back in time. Did anyone attend Assembly that Michael Jackson went to?

by out of the box in

we had some of the cong go all the way to california to attend the same assembly that they knew michael jackson would attend!

when i made a comment about how they were going just to get a glimpse of him.

that was not received too well.

RevFrank

it wasn't that difficult, being in Encino California. It was at the General Assembly hall out in Woodland Hills California.

Jackson was basically quite and smiled as he met some people. I was, really, never a witness, but it interested me as I met him.

Back then it wasn't popular being in the entertainment business and being a Witnesses... Of course there are many now days are witnesses and stars on their own right. Take a look at those Tennis stars.

Also in the early 70s there was a female star,,,I forget her name, but her show was a hit called, "GEt Christy." She dropped out of her show to be a witness...this was told to me by an agent in Hollywierd.....

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Do you trust the internet?

by mtbatoon in

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sparked off by an interview on the radio today about the growth of independent news websites, do you see them as untrustworthy or do you think that with the freedom and exchange of information that the internet provides a community can police itself and bring a truer picture than accredited sites?

RevFrank

I am fully aware of what the Watchtower teach as much as I trust the news media or the internet. Most news media are liberal and biased. What I hate more then the watchtower teaching young minds lies and misinformation is a news biased report that slants information that leads to their own liking.

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Evolutionist Caught in a Lie

by Kenneson in

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eugenie scott of the national center for science education has written a retraction, after being slapped with a libel suit.

she wrongly accused roseville, california attorney larry caldwell of presenting for adoption to the school board two books on young-earth creation, one (get this!

) published by jehovah's witnesses.

RevFrank

Too many scientists are leaving the theory of evolution due to the Two Laws of Thermodymanics. The Two Laws of Thermodymanics are scientistic facts where basically all things in the universe are running down.

Evolution is basically where an old object has altered to a newer species or a different life form. This theory is based, not on facts, but an idea that's been around for over a hundred years

No facts are known, as of yet, that anyone has found anything new.The famous, "Missing Link," was suppose to be the ," Big Foot." No such finding exists. All evolution ever is and still was, just a theory.

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Witnesses Sell Stolen Furniture to Feed Circuit Overseer

by TMS in

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i'm nena, the wife of tms, who used to post in this forum.

i'm posting a letter i wrote to my younger sister yesterday.

i caught her and my one-year older sister selling my furniture at a garage sale.

RevFrank

As long as the Elders support it, it can be done. That brings to mine a fellow Bowen.

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Has anyone ever been to a Christadelphian meeting?

by twinkletoes in

since i have been out of the jws, i have found the freedom to look into other beliefs.

i remember when i was in the org.

how they used to say that the christadelphians are so similar in beliefs to the jws that they must be controlled by satan, especially as they do not beleive in satan as a person/individual.

RevFrank

Why does one need to change their belief for another? How about just having faith in the Savior of the World?

Where does it say that one must have a belief in anything? Or you must rely on a religion(s)?

"And Elijah came to all the people and said, `How long will you falter between tow opinions? If the LORD is GOD, follow Him; but if Baal, follow him.` But the people answered him not a word."(1 Kings 18:21)

And Christ said, "Then if anyone says to you, Look here is the Christ! or There.! do not believe it, for false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to decive, if possible, even the elect." (Matthew 24:23,24)

Only man tells man we must have a belief or a religion(s). No where in scripture does it state that the right religion will save you.

And just one more scripture as I leave......"Then they said to Him, What shall we do that we may work the works of God? Jesus answered and said to them, `This is the worf of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent."(John 6:28,29)

A thought...."Jesus said to them, `I am the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE, No one comes to the Father, except through Me."(John 14:6)

PEACE