is it wrong for a man to cry when he feels pain, either physical or emotional pain.
we all know that women cry when they become emotional, but for a man, is it appropriate or not appropriate to cry.
is it seen as weakness for a man to cry?
There are definitely times it is ok for people to cry. People meaning all humans! It's not ok for anyone to cry over everything, but there are occasions when it's downright inappropriate not to cry, the death of a loved one, extreme joy, etc.
Happyout
what do you think about all of the lawsuits recently against tobacco companies?.
i see 3 sides to the issue:.
1. people should know better; it's clearly printed on the box how dangerous cigarettes are so they shouldn't sue.. 2. it hasn't always been known how bad they were.
I agree, but only to a certain extent. The warning labels actually weren't on the packages in the 60's it was well into the 70's, and the tobacco companies were still vehemently claiming until the last decade or so that cigarrete smoke wasn't dangerous. There are even people now claiming that second hand smoke isn't dangerous, and they have "scientific tests" that supposedly prove it. So, if someone got addicted while the tobacco companies were still practicing their mis and dis information campaigns, then they have a case. If, however, someone started smoking within the last 15 years or so, then they don't have a case, because by that time the information was factual and undeniable. I still don't understand why smoking tobacco is legal, the product causes injury and death when used "properly" and is a health hazard. I won't get on my soap box about that, though And yes, the lawyers are making way too much money from this and long drawn out cases.
As for suing fast food companies, there is no way people who are capable of cognizant thought did not know a diet of fried foods was bad for you. It's one thing to sue a company for lying about their products like the tobacco companies, it's another to sue because you as a consumer are stupid.
Happyout
in all honesty, are you pretty much like you are at home or in the workplace when you post here?
i wonder whether or not you are the same personality in person as you are here on the internet board.......i'm very much the same only i don't ask people questions in real life.
but my basic personality and wonderful wit is always there.
I am always myself, just different sides to my personality show here. I am much more open here, I feel free to express all the repressed rage at the Borg that I can't express in real life, because my family is still in. However, I think anyone who knew me in real life could read any message I have posted here and say, yep, that's her.
Happyout
since it is friday and i am in a fluffy mood..... fingernails....long/short; painted, bare?
french manicure or nothing?
i had my nails *done* a few months ago and there was a man there getting a full set of acrylic nails.
Hey girls,
I hate stockings also, but like Teenyuck, I work in a "professional" atmosphere that generally requires them if you are wearing a skirt or dress. I have taken to wearing lots of pantsuits, but I wear the knee high stockings. And actually, I just broke my foot, so I can't wear heels of any sort for a while Yippeeee!!! As for nails, I have good genes, and my nails grow fast and strong, but with a full time job and a young child, it's hard to find time to paint them. Plus, for some reason, I always get smears on the papers I work with when I wear colored polish. Not like my nails are wet, but just like I drag them across the paper or something. Even finishing with a clear coat doesn't seem to help. Anyone else with that problem?
I don't do enough with my toes, but I have a parafin spa at home, and about once a month or so I try to give myself a nice treatment. My husband horns in on the foot soak, but I haven't been able to get him to try the wax. He says it looks painful, like when I pluck my eyebrows.
Well, I would love to stay and play, but I'm off for a full weekend. Meet you all back here Monday for more girl talk (or cawfee tawk)
Happyout (happy to have kicked it with the girls for a moment)
nothing to do with jws but i thought it interesting anyway: .
the feminization of boysafter viewing 20/20's piece entitled, "a gender straitjacket", i have come to the conclusion that the mass leftist media needs a "sensitivity muzzle" when it comes to the feminization of the male gender.
a 15 minutes segment, filled with a quack named william pollack, telling me that 2 year old boys who paint their nails and play with barbie dolls is a normal thing, was more than my paunch could handle.
My point was that BOTH parents should allow their children to explore what interests them without labeling it. Likely a little boy will imitate his dad more than his mom, but what about the times he does imitate his mom? Should he be discouraged from doing so? It's all about being open, and allowing the child to feel secure in whatever they try. My son, who is 2 1/2, likes to read like his mommy, and sometimes puts on his mommy's shoes. He also likes to wrestle with daddy (Mommy won't wrestle), and watch sports with daddy. ALL of these activities are accepted with love and support, and that's what parents should do a lot more of.
Happyout (thinking Brummie and I are probably on the same page with this)
answering one of minimus questions, got me thinking, the watchtower must hate the internet, all this info and experiences from all over the world at your fingertips, it's almost like the watchtower had a communist rule over their followers, only telling them what they wanted.. then >>>>>>>>>>.
the internet, .
do you think the watchtower will say, a true jehovah's witness would have no use for such an "apostate" device..
Yes, they use the internet, but they are the only ones telling the "truth" so you should avoid all other sites.
Just like it was ok for them to be in the UN, but not for the rank and file to vote or join a political party.
Hypocrites they are, no matter what the topic.
Happyout
nothing to do with jws but i thought it interesting anyway: .
the feminization of boysafter viewing 20/20's piece entitled, "a gender straitjacket", i have come to the conclusion that the mass leftist media needs a "sensitivity muzzle" when it comes to the feminization of the male gender.
a 15 minutes segment, filled with a quack named william pollack, telling me that 2 year old boys who paint their nails and play with barbie dolls is a normal thing, was more than my paunch could handle.
The issue is not what kids prefer, but how adults view it. Everything a child does is about gaining acceptance from their parents. One of the boys in my son's daycare paints his toenails, and the other kids never remarked on it (for two weeks that I noticed) until one day one of the fathers came in and said "only GIRLS" polish their nails. Suddenly this kid was made fun of, and put down. That's just wrong. Lots of kids like to expirement with non dangerous things that they see their parents do, and frequently naturally grow out of it. I realize that some parents go overboard, but that's both ways. I have been told by a couple of European friends of mine that American men are "too rough", so feminization can also be a geographic judgement. I used to think my friends from Europe were gay, because to me they were "soft" until I realized that's just how men are where they come from.
The rambling point I am attempting to make is we should allow our children freedom to explore different roles (as long as they aren't dangerous or illegal like that out of place beer analogy) without showing disapproval and judgement.
The other issues that have been raised are interesting, but a bit off topic. Maybe someone should start a new thread on one of them.
Happyout ( a woman who hates to shop married to a man who loves to)
i was raised non-religious.
i don't call myself an atheist as such because i don't like to label anyone, but i don't actually believe in god (though i am christian in background, and several branches of family family are roman catholic).
my fiance knows this.
Hi, Juliana, and welcome,
You are mixed in with a dangerous man. As others have said, if he were a TRUE JW, he would not have dated, much less fallen in love with a non believer. I don't want to get into private matters, but if you have been in any way physical with him, including petting, touching of genitals, etc, he has again violated the rules of his religion. The fact that he has done these things, and is now insisting that you convert means he is confused, and uncertain of his own faith. One of the major downfalls with this religion is that they "disfellowship" members who break their rules, and if you are "disfellowshipped" even your own family members aren't allowed to talk to you. If you want proof of how this religion tears families apart, read the post regarding a letter sent to a former JW by her son. I don't remember the exact name of the post, but the mother goes by "Inky" in this forum. I'm sure you can find the letter. It will break your heart.
Get out now before it's too late. Believe me, this guy has a lot of problems, and you will spend the rest of our life trying to live up to a ridiculous standard that makes no logical sense.
Happyout (throwing a life preserver to Juliana)
edited to add the link to Inky's son's letter: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/53530/1.ashx
i never really post here, but i read all the time.
i need to vent to someone and who better to vent to then all of you?
a little bit of background info.
Heather,
Just wanted to say I understand your dilemna. It seems to me that your husband put you in a terrible spot, and you should do everything within your power to force him not to do it again.
I admire your stance for your children, and I strongly suggest you take some legal steps to ensure your wishes are carried out, and they recieve blood in case of emergency before you get to the scene. If it happened that your husband arrived first, and did not allow it, you could lose a child to their stupid policy.
Stay strong,
Happyout
recently we looked this up, to show to someone who refused to believe that they would ever print such advice.. this was in the watchtower 1976 page 330. it was the lifestory of porfirio caicedo from columbia :-i recall a form of punishment that worked effectively on horacio, my fifth son, when the literal rod failed to do so.
he was about eight years old.
he was too insistent in associating with undesirable neighborhood boys.
In the first example, this is a form of mental abuse that the mother nowadays could possibly temporarily lose custody of her son for. In the second instance, while there is nothing wrong with hard work, the children should have been supplied with gloves, sunscreen, etc, so that they were not subject to injury. I hate when parents get "lazy" in their discipline techniques and resort to cruelty.
Happyout
ps I'm with Thunder and SheilaM, I loved Stinky's old avatar
