Posts by happyout

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If God And His Thoughts Are Perfect - How Did Humans & Satan Become Evil?

this question may not make too much sense.

if a man creates a computer, using the best parts and software design with the intent of analyzing data accurately and reliably, would he also design it with the ability or freedom to 'crash' or spread viruses to other computers if it chose to?

if a man trains a dog with the intent of being a family pet, would he also give it the knowledge to kill humans or other animals?

happyout

Latin,

You are reading my mind! These are the types of things that made me leave the WTS, and stop believing the Bible is "inspired". Even if someone has it twisted in their mind that the original sin was based on human choice, and was no fault of God, the question immediately arises (and has been discussed on this forum repeatedly), why have millions of people been made to suffer for the sins of two? Once the original two sinned, God KNEW their offspring had no chance. Then, according to the WTS, instead of forgiving the whole lot of us for something we can't help (sinning) he picks a certain few to favor. EGOMANIACAL at the very least, EVIL at most. If our justice system in the US jailed all generations of a family for a crime committed by an ancestor, how ridiculous and abhorrent would that be? And, really, who is without crime? Who has never sped while driving, or ran a yellow light, or taken a pen from their office, or whatever? So, since we all commit crimes (no matter how minor), should we not all then be in jail? Same flawed reasoning as the whole, we all sin and therefore all deserve death.

Yeeesh!

Happyout

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Are you posting while you are supposed to be working?

by Elsewhere in

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yeah... i do it all the time... sitting at work... but instead of working i'm reading and posting here.. anyone else guilty of this?

happyout

Yes

Happyout (hanging head in shame, but secretly laughing)

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Theocratic Terms Explained.?

by core in

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remember the old issue in the ministry school guidebook re theocratic terms.

well can i ask for some one to help me with " posting terms explained " .

i know i have had a sheltered life but what do those acronyms mean - btw lol borg (i can guess that one but it could have a number if subtle differences) etc etc i think i can guess some of them but can anyone give some definition to all those odd little expressions used in posts here - which are fine if you know the meaning - but for boring old ***** like me i havent got a clue?

happyout

One that Brummie was kind enough to explain to me was BTTT - back to the top, as in when you reply to a thread it goes back to the top of the most active list.

Happyout (happy to be in the know for once)

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How ADDICTIVE is this site???

by ninecharger in

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when i came (in the mundane sense), over this board, it was thrilling to find others who had the same viewpoints, insights, and completely opposing shitty religious fairy tales.. after lurking and now, posting, i have to put a clock by my pc.

no more than half an hour a night.

(that is why i jump in sometimes, and get folks angry...).

happyout

It's so addictive that I risk not getting my work done to post here. I don't turn on the computer at home, almost ever, so work hours are the only times I can read and post. I have occasionally let work pile up because something so fascinating was going on here that I couldn't tear myself away. I will start to wean myself very soon.

Happyout (nodding, really, uh huh, really I will)

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If God And His Thoughts Are Perfect - How Did Humans & Satan Become Evil?

by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

this question may not make too much sense.

if a man creates a computer, using the best parts and software design with the intent of analyzing data accurately and reliably, would he also design it with the ability or freedom to 'crash' or spread viruses to other computers if it chose to?

if a man trains a dog with the intent of being a family pet, would he also give it the knowledge to kill humans or other animals?

happyout

You are not the only one, I have asked this question repeatedly. I also compare it to a sterile environment. If the environment is sterile, it will stay that way until something else is introduced. So, where does that something else come from? If God's creations were all perfect, in other words sterile, then where die imperfection come from?

Happyout

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Food For Thought

by unique2u in

she had been shopping with her mom in wal-mart.. .

"let's run through the rain!

let's run through the rain.

happyout

This was beautiful, thanks for sharing.

Happyout

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My wifes and I meeting with two elders. Their true colors shine through

by Winston Smith :>D in

i thought id give you an update re whats going on.

my qing the wts of recent has been very hard on my wife.

if i could, i would change my timing of doing so, but its just the way it has happened.

happyout

Winston,

Let me just add my admiration for the way you show such love for your wife, and the grace with which you handled the "elders". I hope to someday cultivate such a wonderfully mild, yet strong spirit.

'Cause personally, I would have been swinging on somebody!

Happyout

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Can a J-Dub conduct a Bible study without a WTS publication?

by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

if j-dubs claim to be the authority on bible literacy and teaching, then why can't they conduct a bible study or preach without a wts publication?

if i claimed to be an authority on shakespeare during a conversation with a friend, would i pull out a book written by someone else that explained it?

how does that prove that i understand shakespeares work?

happyout

Tsk tsk tsk.

Trying to apply logic where there is none?? It doesn't work dear, that's at least part of the reason why most of us left.

Happyout (patting Latin Assassin on the head gently)

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Working for a JW, and you get df'd, would you be fired ??? is it legal ?

by run dont walk in

i'm sure this must of happened at least once in 125 years, but what if .......... you are working for brother a in his cleaning business (that's seems to be all jw's do) or any other business, and you get df'd lets say for immoral conduct or apostacy, would you be fired ???

and what legal course would you have ???

the freedom of rights must include discrimination against/for religion, just because someone leaves a religion does that give the right to the owner of the business to fire a person.. any thoughts ????????.

happyout

California is also a right to work state, BUT, depending on the reason they give for letting you go, you can successfully sue in some of these cases. I have a relative who is a lawyer, and she defends companies against these types of charges. She says the cases she usually settles or loses are those where the company either breaks their own written policy (like if their employee handbook has a termination process such as giving a warning, then a write up, then termination, and they don't follow it when they let you go) OR, simply by stating a reason they are terminating you. The best thing to do is get them to state a reason for your termination, then, depending on what they say, proceed from there.

Happyout

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A Definition of Forgiveness

by StinkyPantz in

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moral.

it is a response to an injustice (a moral wrong).. it is a turning to the "good" in the face of this wrongdoing.

goodwill.

happyout

Thanks for putting this back. Much like I thought, it is very thought provoking. I agree, but I ask the question, what brings about forgiveness? Does the person who committed the injustice have to ask or even care to be forgiven? And what about the repeat offender? At what point does it go beyond forgiveness, and become being used?

I have found it easy to forgive once, hard to fogive twice, and impossible to forgive a third time. Does that make me less than the person I aspire to be?

Happyout (pondering)