last year my girl's daughter was in 3rd grade.
we lived in cupertino, ca.
this area has a lot of newly immigrated families from (mainly) the middle east, asia, and mexico.
This is what worries me about my son starting school. Some idiotic teacher saying something stupid and possibly damaging his psyche. Me going to the school and beating down said teacher.
You were 100% correct, and I sincerely hope you never lose the power of your convictions. Good for you!!
Happyout
well, after four elder meetings at 2 hours a pop, they sill want to get together with me.
the last meeting i told them to give me scriptural backing that disproves that the 70 years ended when babylon fell as spoken of at jer 25: 10,11. i also asked for scriptures to prove why they insist on 607 rather than 587 as the fall of jerusalem.
they said they would do that and get back to me.
I have to agree with Rocketman, I think they are trying to manuever you into a situation where they will find "cause" to disfellowship you. I think such action would be terribly detrimental to your wife's well being, but since when is that their priority? I would do all I could to avoid meeting with them.
Good luck, you're a very strong man.
Happyout
some here may have noticed that recently teejay and i got into it a little bit on a thread i started about the locking of threads.
about two years ago teejay and i got into it a few times in other threads.
as much as i thought teejay was an intelligent guy and i have always gotten a kick out of his sarcastic sense of humor i still thought he loved to stir things up and take a few unnecessary jabs at people simply for the sake of jabbing them and causing trouble.. teejay called me tonight.
Ok, I guess I'll have to call Teejay myself to see what all the fuss is about. Gotta love a man who gives good phone
Happyout
Actually I was until I found out it was all in Latin. I may be low class for saying this, but movies with subtitles just kinda bug me. I go to movies for mindless entertainment, not for deep meaningful stuff.
Happyout
ps Are you planning to go?
come on, can you really do it?
and is it really necessary?
i don't know about ya'll, but i often feed off my hatred, fear, anger.
I think if you change "feeding off my anger" to "letting my anger motivate me to do good" it will more accurately reflect what you feel.
Just a thought
Happyout
come on, can you really do it?
and is it really necessary?
i don't know about ya'll, but i often feed off my hatred, fear, anger.
There are so many sides to this story, I don't believe there can ever be just one answer. I have also personally experienced situations where I forgave someone for doing something I never thought I would forgive (like being unfaithful).
Perhaps some people can really forget, I don't. I decide if I am going to forgive (based upon the offenders actions after the offense), and then if I do, I NEVER BRING IT UP. That's very different from forgetting. I doubt I could really forget, not if it was something that really caused me pain. But, if I tell someone I forgive them, they can rest assured I will never bring it up, or treat them any differently than before.
As for little things, I let them go very easily. I have been through too many real problems in my life to worry about little ticky tack crap. You have to A) be someone close to me and B) do something really bad to need my forgiveness. Otherwise, I overlook the normal quirks of being human, just as I hope my friends do for me.
I do think, however, that forgiveness depends on the person asking for it. I don't see how I can forgive if I am never asked to.
Happyout
i think one major point that proves that the jw's are a cult is that you can't leave without being stigmatized.
all you have to do for other religions is take your name of the membership log or just resign.
for jw's you can't leave unless you're df'd or da'd.
I'm feeling you big time!!!!
The lucky ones who are able to "fade" without being DA'd or DF'd still suffer, because we know any day the light could become brighter the WTS could change their rules once again, and forbid association with "inactive" ones. There are people I grew up with who now will barely speak to me (and againl, I'M NOT DA'D OR DF'D).
Hate mongering, hypocritical, pedophile loving, false prophesying, murdering sons of bitches .......................
Happyout (stomps off muttering)
how many of you came to this board, only to find others you knew when you were witnesses?.
perhaps you didn't know the other person had left.
or you knew they'd left, but had lost touch, only to be reunited here?
I used to go the same hall as one person, but we were in different age groups. That's all I know for sure. If I weren't undercover, I would say which cong I came from, and maybe I would find more. I wish I could, it would be nice to see if any of my "friends" had escaped.
Happyout
i have major updates on my progress of leaving the jw religion.
for those of you who are at a point in your life where i was a year and a half ago, i hope my story helps.
first, though, i have a request for simon: i have e-mailed this request two you at least twice in the past and i have asked you publicly on this forum this request: please, please, please merge my old posting names of 'mister biggs' and 'mister 8iggs' with 'funchback'.
nothing worse than an Un-official ex jw
I am looking forward to the rest of your story. Hopefully it will end with most, if not all, of your family free.
It gives me hope that one day my family might see the light.
Thanks for sharing,
Happyout
i am so in the dark.
i do not know what's going on and, quite frankly, i don't care to.
perhaps there is bliss in ignorance.
I stay away from most politics, simply because a lot of time I don't think I'm educated enough on the topic. I can't quote history, statistics, etc, I can only state my thoughts and feelings.
There are some threads that start out really interesting, then turn into insults and name calling. I can't remember calling anyone names (aside from hypocrite, which I think is more of a description), but I sometimes stay in those discussions longer than I should. I realize it's seldom that a person changes their mind ( I haven't yet because of a thread), but I enjoy trying to understand another person's point of view.
There are some people I have learned I must ignore, as they are incapable of disagreeing without resorting to childish name calling and insults. They usually do this when they want others to accept their opinion as a fact.
I don't read a lot of fluff stuff, but I read some.
Happyout
