Debz

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  You are being watched!

  by qwerty in

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  qwerty.......no it's not my father or me.

  although it would make a good decoy!

  edited by - qwerty on 18 january 2003 5:28:17edited by - qwerty on 18 january 2003 6:45:33.

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  Debz

  Thats really freaky!!
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  Name Something Positive About Being A Witness

  by minimus in

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  can you do it?

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  Debz

  Name Something Positive About Being A Witness

  They save a lot of money! No presents for anything! - My parents have made a small fortune over the last 30 years.....no uni fees, no Xmas`s, easter, etc......when you add it all up they would have saved a fortune..no wonder they are doing so well.....
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  Any advice?

  by embalmed in

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  am new, but have monitored this site and read stuff on it for a long time.

  have a dilemma.

  history [skip this if you want]:.

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  Debz

  Hiya Embalmed and welcome....

  Well sounds like you`ve had a tough old time with all this at your age.....my only advise would be to tell your mum you are not interested in attending any of the meetings..at 15 you can make those decsions for yourself - as even in a court of law your opinions would count if it was to do with custody issues. If this does`nt work or you feel you can`t do this you can contact Social Services, social worker or a youth worker - who would listen to you and ensure that you are not forced to attend...no-one can force you too attend meetings if you don`t want to...I realise this may make things hard for your relationship with your Mum but she will have to deal with it as you really need to be treated as a young adult that can make up your own mind about what you want to do...she will get over it....have you got any other non witnesses you can live with? ..I wish that I had done that instead of going through the motions until finally running away from it all at 22 with two young kids...and trying to resocialise alone......its not the way to go believe me, and I think you need to have this time of your youth doing `normal` youthy things...Good luck..Love Debz
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  Herbal Smokes - are they okay?

  by Beck_Melbourne in

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  they look like ciggies, they even taste like ciggies, but they smell like horse poop.

  hell i don't care...they'll do me.. i've been off smokes for 2 years...but had a terrible craving (stress related) and so i surrendered to the craving and had a few drags of a peter jackson number 8...then i had another...and another.

  i had some crazy thoughts about buying a packet.

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  Debz

  Hi ((((((((((((((((((((((Beck))))))))))))))))))

  I haven`t known anyone that has tried them.......and I know how you feel Beck ....I gave up last July as you know and since then have had the `odd` one...I don`t `beat` myself up over it coz if I did I think I`d be back on em fulltime again...I reckon that as long as I don`t go back how bad I was (40 a day) that I must be better off....thats my strongest advise coz if you keep feeling bad..you`ll give up totally and start up..again!! if that makes sense...anyways ......see ya soon...XXX
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  I Made it Through Hell Week

  by Robdar in

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  i made it through my first week without a cigarette.

  it still seems odd that a cigarette is no longer the first thing i think of when i wake up.

  this is the first time it has happened in 20 years.

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  Debz

  Congrats ......thats a hard week..I stopped June 11th 2002...and have had a couple here and there (at the 5 week stopped mark I found out my ex husband was dying of cancer his son and I had`nt seen him for four years - he died 4 days later - I`m afraid I NEEDED something!although does`nt make sense really as he was a heavy smoker and died of oesophagus cancer.......hmmmmmm strange thats what I would go to for comfort eh) although this may have made things harder for me now..as I still get a fancy now and again for one..but when I do I read this it may help in the weeks / months to come......GOOD Luck!!

  EYES
  Chemicals in tobacco cause damage to the macula (the most sensitive part of the retina, the back of the eye). Tiny blood vessels can burst through the macula, leading to irreversible damage. According to the recent research, there is a strong association between smoking and a number of common eye diseases, including Graves' ophthalmopathy, age- related macular degeneration, glaucoma and cataract. Smoking causes morphological and functional changes to the lens and retina due to its atherosclerotic and thrombotic effects on the ocular capillaries. Also,
  it enhances the generation of free radicals and decreases the levels of
  antioxidants in the blood circulation, aqueous homour and ocular tissue.
  Eventually, continuous smoking may perpetuate further damage and lead to
  permanent blindness.

  MOUTH, THROAT AND OESOPHAGUS
  Smoking is a risk factor for all cancers associated with the larynx,oral
  cavity and oesophagus. Over 90% of the patients with oral cancer(includes cancers of the lip, tongue, mouth and throat) are smoker, and the risk for these cancers increases with the number of cigarettes smoked. Heavy smokers have laryngeal cancer mortality risks 20 to 30 times greater than non-smokers. The combined effect of tobacco and alcoholic drink imposes a much higher risk of oral and pharyngeal cancers by 35-fold.

  HEART AND CIRCULATION
  Two immediate effects of smoking on heart and circulation are (1) an increase in your heartbeat rate, (2) a sharp rise in blood pressure. These responses are caused by nicotine which acts on the nervous system, causing the heart rate to rise and blood vessels to constrict. This narrowing of the blood vessels causes the blood pressure rise and strain is put on the heart. The carbon monoxide in cigarettes depletes the oxygen carrying capacity of a smoker's blood. This means that the heart has to pump harder to get enough oxygen to the rest of the body. Smoking can also affect the blood in the long term: increase in the blood cholesterol and fibrinogen levels. Both these factors mean blood will clot more easily and this will increase the risk of having a heart attack, caused by a blood clot forming in the heart. The heart and circulation attacks caused by smoking include : Coronary heart disease (CHD), Aneurysm, Peripheral vascular disease (PVD), stroke etc.

  LUNGS
  The tar content of cigarette smoke damages the cells in the airways of the lung, making the cilia unable to sweep away the harmful substances. Eventually this damage can produce cells that grow in an uncontrolled way leading to cancer of the lung or larynx. Moreover, harmful substances from the smoke are detected by the protective cells of the body and these cells move to the lung and try to defend it, but are destroyed by the cigarette smoke. The dead cells release substances that damage the structure of the lung, which leads to chronic bronchitis and emphysema. Tobacco accounts for more than 80% of the lung cancer cases. The observed relationship between tobacco smoking and the incidence of lung cancers appears to depend on factors such as: i) the daily dose of tobacco; ii) the duration of regular smoking and iii) the form in which tobacco is smoked (cigarettes, cigars, pipes).

  BRAIN
  Cigarette smoking has been linked to the buildup of fatty substances in the carotid artery, the main neck artery supplying blood to the brain. Blockage of this artery may cut off the blood supply to the brain cells, which results in stroke (cerebral thrombosis). Also, nicotine raises blood pressure; carbon monoxide reduces the amount of oxygen your blood can carry to the brain; and cigarette smoke makes the blood thicker and more likely to clot. Smokers are more likely to develop stroke than non-smokers, with the overall relative risk of stroke in smokers being about 1.5times that of non-smokers.
  
  DIGESTIVE SYSTEM
  Smoking has been shown to have harmful effects on all parts of the digestive system, contributing to such common disorders as heartburn and peptic ulcers. It also increases the risk of Crohn's disease and possibly gallstones. Risk of stomach cancer caused by smoking increases with duration of smoking and the number of cigarettes smoked.

  LIVER AND PANCREAS
  Nearly 50% of the bladder and kidney cancer in men are caused by smoking, with lower contribution for women. Cigarette smoke can interact with chemical (especially aromatic amines) in the work place to produce bladder and kidney cancer. Also, approximately 30% of all deaths from pancreatic cancer are attributable to cigarette smoking.

  SKIN AND HAIR
  Just 10 minutes of cigarette smoking decreases the body's and skin's oxygen supply for almost an hour. Smoking robs the skin of collagen which keeps the skin elastic. Smokers get more and deeper wrinkles all over their faces because nicotine constricts the tiny capillaries that nourish the skin. Smokers in their 40s often have as many facial wrinkles as non-smokers in their 60s. Smoking interferes with the healing process, it takes longer to heal and there is more scarring.
  Smokers are also prone to premature thinning and graying of the hair. Men who smoke are twice as likely to become bald as are men who do not smoke, and premature graying is 3 to 6 times more common in smokers.

  BONE AND MUSCLE
  Smoking delays the healing of fractures, and in some smokers bone healing is indefinitely delayed. Nicotine restricts blood flow to all tissue, especially in the newly forming tissues that are involved in the bone repair. Moreover, tobacco smoke chemicals are poisons that also inhibit the development of new tissue cells. The tissue of smokers does not get an adequate blood supply to promote healing, thus smokers are at a much higher risk of developing osteoporosis. Male smokers are also affected because smoking negatively affects the production of bone cells. Women with a smoking history have significantly lower bone density and are much more likely to suffer fractures. Furthermore, their earlier menopause add to the risk of osteoporosis. Studies show that women who use tobacco have a 50% higher risk of osteoporosis than nonsmokers. Smokers also have poorer muscle strength, agility and balance.
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  You will retain 40% of the US$18,500,000.00

  by qwerty in

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  this is an email received today.

  what do you make of it?

  a bit dodgy or what!

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  Debz

  Yep ...I`ve had a few of these too......nuisance eh!!
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  JWS Start New Religious Club

  by Voyager in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  good morning everybody, you all may have already seen this web, but i found that it was hidden behind another one.

  the jws have got themselves a little club going on, with terms of agreement and the whole scoop.

  check out http://jehovah.to/general/nazi/ when you get there, click on home.

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  Debz

  Hmmm..very interesting Voyager.....
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  POSTING HERE any plans to.............

  by plmkrzy in

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  ........move on after a certin amount of time?

  i've been here for a year as of today.

  in may i't will be 2years browsing here.

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  Debz

  Yummby sums it up for me!!!
  
  

  ummm, I don't know...

  I have no idea!!!...lolol

  I don't really post here to "heal" from anything,

  Nutting that stands out just the usual dub stuff..lololol

  I think I'm past most of my angst about the witnesses,

  Pretty sure really! don`t care much bout them..takes up too much of my energy

  I mostly hang out here because I like everyone here so much and people on this forum talk about real issues,

  and find that the subjects have substance........
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  The power of belief systems

  by donkey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  most of us here have been jw's.

  most of us believed it was the truth.

  inherent in that is the belief that we would be persecuted and this would be one of the signs that we were the true religion.

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  Debz

  There is an old saying of the Lord Buddha which illustrates the point about 'belief' quite well.
  
  

  One day one of his disciples came to Buddha and said "Lord, whom shall I believe? One man telleth me this and another that, and both seem sure they are right."
  
  The Lord Buddha replied: "My son, believe not that which any man saith, not even I, unless it appeals to your common sense. And even then do not believe it, but treat it as a reasonable hypothesis until such time as you can prove it for yourself." (Source: 'A Soul's Journey' by Peter Richelieu; page 1)

  
  
  GOOD Advise methinks!!
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  My mother

  by Soledad in

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  forgive me just really venting here.

  as some of you may know my mom suffered an accident about 1 month ago, she fell down a flight of stairs.

  luckily she didnt break anything, she just had a minor concussion and some stitches on her head.

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  Debz

  Its like, where is she underneath all those layers of watchtower crap? Who is she really?

  
  Yes.....vent away! I think most of us with parents still in have this experience...wouldn`t it be like to find out WHO they really are without all that overlay of zealot `unmoveable` beliefs....I often wonder what sort of a life we all could have lived!!!!.......I guess the only bit of comfort is that there are all of us here on the board that can relate to what you are going through!...