hi.i've been pouring over this site for the past few days looking for some advice and i hope there is someone here that can help a guy out.
i'm desperate.....short bio: i came into the organization after high school and shortly after married a wonderful girl who was born-in.we have been happily married now for nearly 20 years and things were well until 2015 hit.
by the way, i currently serve as an elder and have the ""privilege"" of being the "watchtower overseer".. either here nor there, we were told we would never have children but late last year my wife became prego!!
ABibleStudent suggested reading Steven Hassan's book, "Combating Cult Mind Control." A number of other posters here also recommend Hassan's books. Their posts share much of what helps reach those in cults and what makes things worse. You might check out what they have to say if you can't get the book right away.
I'm so sorry for all you and your wife have gone through and hope you both can find peace.
there were always all types of speakers in the org.
myself, growing up a "witness", must have heard all types of talks, and given by all manner of speakers, especially on sundays, when almost every week we would get a "visiting" brother giving the public talk.. sometimes, you would have a "great" speaker, all fluent and animated.
other times we would get a comical speaker, one who would maybe purposelly get a few laughs outta the audience.
During the Watchtower study, a sister was talking about Jesus' entry into Jerusalem and said that he rode in on the "ass of a colt." She realized what she said and immediately corrected herself: He rode in on a "colt's ass."
i notice that while a search of the wt library reveals many references to homosexuals, there are few references to lesbians.. does the wts include women when it uses the term homosexual?.
when discussing masturbation, does it mention both sexes?.
i am asking out of pure ignorance, seeking clarification.. my only comment is that religion of every shade has difficulty with the subject of sexual activity, as if it were something that is not part of nature.. doug.
Diogenesister
"...as a teenager...I felt more guilted...
as if I was a freak for being a girl with a sex drive."
As well you should, Diogenesister, as well you should. A public speaker giving a talk on marriage discussed the need for communicating one's desires in order to have a happy sex life. Apparently only the husbands needed to do the communicating, however, because wives would gain happiness not by focusing on their own desires but by working to fulfill their husbands'.
This was no old fogey of a Witness; he was probably only in his thirties. I felt sorry for his wife if he believed what he was saying and lived in harmony with it.
If I remember correctly, a similar point of counsel was made in one of the magazines. How edifying.
you see ive started dating this girl and her family is of strong jehova belief.
now i am not i do see certain things in there studie that is true in my opinion but ive never really been a religion type of person.
i think i want to marry her but i am not a jehovas witness and am not looking to be anytime at all she says that is ok and we can still get married but i dont know how its possible or where we would even do it please i need advice
If I understand you correctly, you're concerned about where or how you could get have the wedding. Depending on where you live, that's the easy part. You could have a civil marriage, perhaps being married by a judge. (If you're not a Witness, you can NOT be married at the Kingdom Hall.)
What you really need to worry about, though, is what your life will be like AFTER you're married. That's the really hard part if you marry a Witness.
you see ive started dating this girl and her family is of strong jehova belief.
now i am not i do see certain things in there studie that is true in my opinion but ive never really been a religion type of person.
i think i want to marry her but i am not a jehovas witness and am not looking to be anytime at all she says that is ok and we can still get married but i dont know how its possible or where we would even do it please i need advice
you see ive started dating this girl and her family is of strong jehova belief.
now i am not i do see certain things in there studie that is true in my opinion but ive never really been a religion type of person.
i think i want to marry her but i am not a jehovas witness and am not looking to be anytime at all she says that is ok and we can still get married but i dont know how its possible or where we would even do it please i need advice
If she believes what the Witnesses teach, she will believe that you are going to be killed at Armageddon. If she is active in the congregation, she may be angry at you because you're not "serving Jehovah and taking care of the family the way husbands should," (going to the meetings, out in service, etc.). Or she may be very sad because of it, or she may feel she's better than you because you're in "the world." Or maybe all three. None of these will make your marriage happy.
You may think she would never feel this way, but these are the feelings of many Witness women who have "unbelieving mates"--and an "unbelieving mate" is what you will be in Witness eyes.
if it has not already been done, i would like to introduce a new topic.
for me, i would like to know the whereabouts and what's up with some of my former friends and acquaintances.
to start: some folks i used to be close to at cape cod mass: bob and pam fragosa , dick and valerie davis, charles harutunian (sic).
if it has not already been done, i would like to introduce a new topic.
for me, i would like to know the whereabouts and what's up with some of my former friends and acquaintances.
to start: some folks i used to be close to at cape cod mass: bob and pam fragosa , dick and valerie davis, charles harutunian (sic).
who were your past circuit overseers?
i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).
ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).
Substitute C.O.s:
David Tennent
Alan Sexton
Nat Gulotta
C.O. or D.O.:
(Frank???) Bartell
who were your past circuit overseers?
i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).
ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).
Some from between 1968 and 1985 (I don't remember the names of those from after 1985 to about 2005):
Fred and Mildred Schilling
? and Lou Walker
DiCinti (DeCinti?)
Barry and Kitty Sobieski
John and Diana Peterson
Don and Natasha Amy
Henry and ? Casper
John (and Ruth) Chimiklis
Joseph Scaglione (circuit or district?)
Jerry and Chris Crana
John and Anne Arbore (Pioneer School--from a neighboring circuit)
