I once had a fellow witness tell me:
"If the society told us to get guns and use them, I will."
Run around in the chaotic streets shooting. Knew a few who were ready to do just that during 9/11.
i think this is a question worth considering - just how extreme will witnesses become?.
first, the hierarchy: there are numerous accounts stretching back for years of gb members skipping meetings,.
ignoring field service and treating "vital" doctrine in a cavalier fashion.
I once had a fellow witness tell me:
"If the society told us to get guns and use them, I will."
Run around in the chaotic streets shooting. Knew a few who were ready to do just that during 9/11.
james did not show up today.
so the seat next to me in my pod remained vacant.. .
in his absence, my pod members (some of whom are new to what i call the "pity pod") trashed him.
This why I don't want an office job. Too much drama and gossip.
the generation of the anointed ends in 2005 as that will conclude 70 years since the last of that special group was chosen in 1935. for many jehovah's witnesses this may be something to look forward to, but have they really thought this through?
by logically working through their doctrine of the last generation it appears that god favors the dead.
here is my latest findings on the last generation of jehovah's witnesses and the conclusion that if the watchtower is right, then god missed the boat by sending jehovah's witnesses to start their preaching work over 100 years ago.. http://jwinfoline.com/documents/prophecy/last_generation.htm.
So is THIS where my mother is getting this 2 year thing from? I couldn't figure out what she was talking about. I didn't attend the assembly with the family. But they came back ranting about only 2 years being left.
I take it this was discussed at the assembly.
franz stated something in this mind-blowing book which was definitely true for me.. he stated (this is a poor paraphrase) that very early on during a "study", witnesses can easily show what's in the bible regarding god's name, the condition of the dead, living on paradise earth, etc.
once these are proven to a person's satisfaction, when the study moves on to more complicated matters, it is just easier to accept what isn't understood on the basis that so far, everything has seemed true.
by now, there is an emotional investment -and everything up until now seemed fine, so.....................................let's swallow it all, and what is too difficult to swallow comfortably (blood?
I understand what berylblue meant by the traumatizing part. Not saying Ray's books are bad. But the feeling of having your whole beliefs knocked down like a line of dominos. One after the other. Feeling like your heart just got hit by a bus. That can be a traumatizing feeling. Not anything personal towards Ray and his books. But just the information it contains about things you really believed in.
But I believe once you get over the initial shock and times of depression, you start to feel liberated. People react in different ways. Some more than others.
we have all read and watched so many of the child abuse / sexual abuse scandals, and it makes us all sick to our stomachs, i want to touch on a different kind of abuse, i am not trying to draw a parellel between child abuse and being abused.
the abuse i am talking about is just as bad but so different.
i remember growing up a jw, basically having no choice, whether i wanted to go to the meetings or in service, and i always resented this in my parents.
I went through a few guilt trips and still do.
"If you love Jehovah, you'd go..."
Otherwise, I'd feel lazy and evil with the way things were said.
franz stated something in this mind-blowing book which was definitely true for me.. he stated (this is a poor paraphrase) that very early on during a "study", witnesses can easily show what's in the bible regarding god's name, the condition of the dead, living on paradise earth, etc.
once these are proven to a person's satisfaction, when the study moves on to more complicated matters, it is just easier to accept what isn't understood on the basis that so far, everything has seemed true.
by now, there is an emotional investment -and everything up until now seemed fine, so.....................................let's swallow it all, and what is too difficult to swallow comfortably (blood?
yesidid,
Seems this topic got pushed back and I lost track of it. I received ISOCF today. But I think I will read COC first. I should be getting that book also. I notice he keeps referring back to COC while I was reading the first few pages. It really is interesting. I use to think the "Governing Body" was untouchable and clean.
I've only been mentally out a year and still trying to blow some things out of my way of thinking. I start to realize how much mind control I was really under... even though it felt like I wasn't. Thinking you have control of yourself when you leave the KH. But in reality, it's still conforming to one way of thinking with everything you do and say.
I didn't know the book was that BIG though! But well worth the read. I already have 2 other people waiting to read it once I'm done.
during an mtv interview singer lauryn hill said, "i would rather die than have a white person buy one of my albums.
true or false?
the inflammatory comment hill supposedly made varies: .
wednesday,
Yes, I remember you posting a few times with encouragement. I appreciate that because I was on the verge. I'm on my way out once I get a few things settled. I'm really trying not to drop school because I really need the skills and certification. There's a few JW's who come by every now and then who make the situation worse. And pressuring me to start a book study when I already made it clear that I didn't want to. (Take the "No" and go.) She's gotten heavier into being a JW that it's being talked about 24/7 and she swears the tribulation is coming within 2 years; thanks to whatever was said at the Convention. I need freedom and peace of mind. That's what I'm aiming for.
Oops, sorry for the hijacking of the topic.
during an mtv interview singer lauryn hill said, "i would rather die than have a white person buy one of my albums.
true or false?
the inflammatory comment hill supposedly made varies: .
Whatever with all this... I'm still poppin' my Lauryn Hill CD in my stereo.
And people still tune into Howard Stern shows. Is HE any better with the comments he makes? And yet still has airplay and listeners?
No, no, no... I'm gonna be listening to track One
"It's funny how money change a situation
Miscommunication lead to complication
My emancipation don't fit your equation
I was on the humble you on every station"
People like to have their ears tickled from one to the other.
i admit to it (as i'm spraying on my chanel christalle and putting on my make up.
spent last night tearing through vogue; my mani/pedi appointment is tonight.....).
no, "admit to it" isn't the correct sentiment.
Am I "girly girl"? Only recently I suppose. However, I don't wear make-up. I usually wear lip gloss or dab on lipstick. I've never worn foundation or mascara once. Sometimes I wear heels. But I have slipped down steps a few times. I DO mess with my hair alot and get caught at the beauty counters at the malls. But they always offer free samples and I can't pass that up. I don't like heavy perfumes. Just light scents. Godda have lots of bubbles for the bath and the Dove body wash/soap. It moisturizes and keeps your skin soft. I have so much junk in my bathroom.
I admit I love to SHOP. I spent over 2 hours in one store. Unknowingly of course. I mostly wear jeans and baby-tees with open toe shoes. And yes I do my feet and paint my toes. lol
Maybe I am girly girl now. I was a tomboy for the longest time. Not too prissy though... just like to look nice every now and then.
during an mtv interview singer lauryn hill said, "i would rather die than have a white person buy one of my albums.
true or false?
the inflammatory comment hill supposedly made varies: .
I'd be more worried about Jeffrey Dahmer eating my children than Mike Tyson.
Anywho,
As far as Lauryn Hill. Her last performance on MTV's "Unplugged"... she kind of went off the edge there. Like her brain was "unplugged". Even though I really enjoy her music and respect her as an artist. I feel as if she's just getting tired of the industry and how it is. She's been on the DL.