...what I mean when I refer to a high control group? Let me tell you how it works from my experience as a member of one. Once you become a member you're "new personality" must quickly conform to the standards set by the group regarding all manner of things we used to do in ordinary everyday life, but not any more. Damn you if you say "good luck" because you are cursing our god and his ability to control all things with nobody else's help except our organization which was chosen by god himself and therefore is the knower of all things and the ultimate dispenser of all information that you will need to know without considering anything else in the world as a source of guidance and direction, which would result in your again denying our god and the power he shows through our faithful and descreet slave that controls everything in the organization and in turn every acpsect of your life. What to think and when to think it, how to think it, thoughts you should not think of, absolutely no independent thinking, memorizing scriptures and phrases and arguments for outsiders and sermons and lesson after lesson after lesson, until these become your own thoughts and you can no longer think for yourself because when you do their thoughts come back to warn you that is bad so you don't think, you assimilate and conform. And that is just in the first few weeks.
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Do you understand...
by christopherceo in...what i mean when i refer to a high control group?
let me tell you how it works from my experience as a member of one.
once you become a member you're "new personality" must quickly conform to the standards set by the group regarding all manner of things we used to do in ordinary everyday life, but not any more.
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Hi y'all!!!
by Skeptically Yours inbeen away, extremely busy with life, for so long!
hope everything is fine with you all.. worked my charm so that the book study meeting didn't happen in my home.
that was such a sweet victory, and in such a way that my husband didn't even realize it was all my doing.
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Yeah, we could create mass fear among the JW's by spreading the rumor that their bookstudies are targets for ex-JW protests. They would have to be more careful of where they meet and as always in the best interest of the common publisher: stay away from anybody trying to convince you that the WTS is wrong, we all know they are but we're too afraid to say anything, so don't. Man would they be trippin', holding special meetings and all, pretending like they are secret but putting on a very public show of their actions at the same time to draw individuated private attention from each member and the group as a whole for the insinuation that they have such a large responsibility to look after the security of the sheep that they must decide what WTS laws to apply in this situation then enforce them with any amount of aggression or control that they wish to exert regardless of the the damaging effects inflicted on so many suble levels of our senses and thinking abilities. Does anybody understand what I mean?
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I was two people at once, were you?
by christopherceo inoh yeah, i did it.
i lived the double life and nobody ever found out.
i did all the things a pioneer/servant was supposed to do.
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Oh yeah, I did it. I lived the double life and nobody EVER found out. I did all the things a pioneer/servant was supposed to do. I also smoked a lot of pot, among other things. Some suspected that something was different about me but couldn"t put their finger on it. And I enjoyed my little secret, it helped me keep my sanity and sense of humor. I got high before meetings, field service, get-togethers, etc. How did I explain my red eyes and "fuzzy brain"? I worked late hours, I was sleepy. The only reason I hung on the last couple of years was because of my wife and kids but when I caught her cheating on me, it was all over. Now the secret me is the public me with the exception that I am proud to say that I am no longer a JW. How about you? Were you leading a double life?
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I got busted...
by christopherceo in...back to being a newbie after just becoming a junior member before the format changed.
what is the scale for this ranking system?
how many posts to reach each?
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...back to being a newbie after just becoming a junior member before the format changed. What is the scale for this ranking system? How many posts to reach each?
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Okay, here is my problem...
by christopherceo in...with my beliefs: what is our ultimate goal in serving god?
heaven?
living forever on earth?
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...with my beliefs: what IS our ultimate goal in serving God? Heaven? Living forever on earth? Or what? I would like to know what it is I should be working toward, although I don't really consider myself a religious person anymore. It's this conflict of doctrine thing, heaven or earth? Heaven would be the greatest reward for living your life the way God wants but living forever on earth is what adam / eve would be doing if they had not screwed up. My grandmother is 105 as of 01-25-03. She has read the bible her entire life and she thinks we will live on earth. Can somebody help me resolve this? Thanks in advance.
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Fear Factor used to control JW children.it is nothing short of child abuse
by LyinEyes ini was thinking of this the other day,,,,,,, feeling guilty of putting my kids thru this, even thou it was not my intention at all,,,,,,,all the meetings, all the service , ,, fear was the motivating factor in doing all of the things jw's do every week.. five meetings a week jw children are subjected to hearing in graphic detail of how the birds will eat the eyeballs out of those who die in armeggedon.
then they are told they better keep on the cramped and narrow path or they will end up the same.
then they hear all the things god did in the past for those who didnt do what he said,,,,,,,terrified they will be his next victims.
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My ex-wife told my 6 year old daughter a few days ago that she was having nightmares because of demons. Can you imagine what that does to a child? I guess so since most of you were inside and you know the fear tactics. Glad I'm gone.
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What Is The Most Effective Brainwashing Technique The Society Uses?
by minimus init seems that for well over a century, the watchtower society has subtly controlled the minds of "thinking persons".
what ways do you think that they are most effective?
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Simple...their indoctrination process provides them with a leash they use to control every aspect of your life, too lengthy to explain but everybody knows what I mean.
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Will just knowing a JW get you a resurrection?
by christopherceo inlet me explain what i mean.
have you ever noticed that when somebody who is not a jw, but is related to or is friends with or some other kind of close connection to a jw, dies, that the jw will always reason that jehovah will probably give them a resurrection?
yet, if this same person died and was not connected to them in any way, they have no hope of a resurrection.
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Let me explain what I mean. Have you ever noticed that when somebody who is not a JW, but is related to or is friends with or some other kind of close connection to a JW, dies, that the JW will always reason that Jehovah will probably give them a resurrection? Yet, if this same person died and was not connected to them in any way, they have no hope of a resurrection. How is this possible? I mean, this makes no sense to me. Sounds like a programmed response installed in all JW's to further separate them from their families to the point of not even mourning the death of someone close by using very complex and intelligent manipulation of the thoughts and feelings of the group and individuals in a way that it seems the thoughts and feelings are their own, but they are not. However, any deviation from this expected response will get you examined through the humiliating interrogation process used by the brotherhood. To make my point simple, it seems that if you know a JW but are not one yourself, you can receive a resurrection if you die, (if you believe in the WTS understanding on this subject, which I find holes in), you just don't have to live the life. No wonder why so many are leaving to be a part of the crowd that doesn't have to live the life prescribed by the WTS, and in doing so, find that there is a lot to be explored. Personally, I don't care to know any JW's.
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What do the elders do to a
by berylblue in...severely emotionally injured witness suffering from bi-polar illness as well as a severe dissociative disorder (multiple personalities) whose husband left her and has no friends in the congregation, who starts smoking?.
disfellowship her.. just thought you'd like to know.. .
beryl
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I clearly remember an article in the mid 90's titled "Would you extinguish a smoldering wick?" It was designed to help ones in counseling those with depression, mental illness, basic stress, etc. I cut it out and put it on my desk, because it reminded me of how opposite they actually acted. I've seen many smoldering wicks extinguished and I was one of them, they were heartless while at the same time trying to portray themselves as being compassionate, have to keep up a certain appearance you know. Be glad you are free.
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I am shocked, disgusted and I feel violated
by berylblue ini have spent the last few days reading all the information about the wts on the internet.
i am shocked.
appalled.
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Beryl,
A truly free mind is a wonderful thing and I too have recently began the journey to that place. Search for it and when you find it, never let anybody ever take it from you again. This life is entirely what you make out of it with your own thoughts and actions conjured up by your own desires and curiosities...feel free to explore.
Welcome Beryl,
ChristopherCEO