Posts by figureheaduk

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What kind of music do you like?

by JH in

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what kind of music do you like?

what groups do you listen to?.

do you just listen to music from your generation only or do you also like music from the past?.

figureheaduk

In no real particular order:

Skinny Puppy, The Cure, Nine Inch Nails, Curve, Depeche Mode, Recoil, Pink Floyd, Kraftwerk, Nitzer Ebb, Marilyn Manson, Talk Talk, Filter, Cocteau Twins, Radiohead, (early) Human League, Nirvana, Alice In Chains, Peter Gabriel, KMFDM, Muse, Radiohead, Devo, Megadeth, INXS, Machines of Loving Grace, Frontline Assembly, (early) Sneaker Pimps, Queen, Bruce Springsteen (both early guitar influences.......)

So, mainly electronic/industrial/goth type stuff, with a bit of 80's and a bit of indie with a touch of good ol' rock thrown in too!

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My 9yr old son was ready to KICK SOME ASS tonite in my defence........

by Jesika in

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friends

i thought this was just toooooooooo cute, i have to share.

we were leaving a birthday party (my step-nephew turned 3 today).

i stopped by the beer store to pick up a 12 pack for my boyfriend.

figureheaduk

Awwwwwwww, isn't that sweet? Sounds like a great son you've got there!

Big hugs and stuff

figgie

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"New light" on Independant thinking?

by figureheaduk in

i've just been reading an article on the jwmedia site about a study into wt literature that has been ordered by a russian court.. http://www.jw-media.org/newsroom/index.htm?content=/region/europe/russia/english/releases/religious_freedom/rus_e030523.htm.

it goes into the usual wt waffle about the persecution and harrassment of jws, religious freedom etc, but the following quote caught my eye:the study also revealed a much higher level of education among jehovah's witnesses (when compared with that of the average muscovite), which tends toward independent rational thinking and decision-making.

now, this would give joe public that the average jw is therefore able to think for himself, and reach his own conclusions independantly.

figureheaduk

Ummm, sorry, looks like the highlighted WT quotes on independant thinking got lost. Here they are (again!)

The Watchtower January 15th 1983 Issue, Page 22:
"Avoid Independent Thinking"
"Avoid.... questioning the counsel that is provided by God's visible organization."
"How is such independent thinking manifested? A common way is by questioning the counsel that is provided by God's visible organization."
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The Watchtower January 15th 1983 Issue, Page 27:
"....some who point out that the organization has had to make some adjustments before, and so they argue: "This shows that we have to make up our own mind on what to believe." This is independent thinking. Why is it so dangerous?"
"Fight against independent thinking."
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The Watchtower September 15th 1989 Issue, Page 23:
"In the world, there is a tendency to reject leadership. As one lecturer said: ;'The rising education level has improved the talent pool such that followers have become so critical that they are almost impossible to lead.' But a spirit of independent thinking does not prevail in God's organization, and we have sound reasons for confidence in the men taking the lead among us."
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The Watchtower March 15th 1986 Issue, Page 17:
"Beware of those who try to put forward their own contrary opinions."
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The Watchtower July 1st 1994 Issue, Pages 12-13:
"As loyal servants of Jehovah, why would we even want to peek at the propaganda put out by rejecters of Jehovah's table...."
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The Watchtower August 1st 1960 Issue, Page 474:
"Jehovah's witnesses, though international, are 'one heart and soul,' of the 'same mind' and the 'same line of though.'"
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The Watchtower June 1st 1967 Issue, Page 338: "....in Jehovah's organization it is not necessary to spend a lot of time and energy in research, for there are brothers in the organization who are assigned to that very thing...."
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The Watchtower August 1st 1972 Issue, Page 458: "....the Watchtower study conductor, who presides over this meeting, has an important responsibility. This study enables all to be united in the same line of thought."

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"New light" on Independant thinking?

by figureheaduk in

i've just been reading an article on the jwmedia site about a study into wt literature that has been ordered by a russian court.. http://www.jw-media.org/newsroom/index.htm?content=/region/europe/russia/english/releases/religious_freedom/rus_e030523.htm.

it goes into the usual wt waffle about the persecution and harrassment of jws, religious freedom etc, but the following quote caught my eye:the study also revealed a much higher level of education among jehovah's witnesses (when compared with that of the average muscovite), which tends toward independent rational thinking and decision-making.

now, this would give joe public that the average jw is therefore able to think for himself, and reach his own conclusions independantly.

figureheaduk

I've just been reading an article on the jwmedia site about a study into WT literature that has been ordered by a Russian court.

http://www.jw-media.org/newsroom/index.htm?content=/region/europe/russia/english/releases/religious_freedom/rus_e030523.htm

It goes into the usual WT waffle about the persecution and harrassment of JWs, religious freedom etc, but the following quote caught my eye:

The study also revealed a much higher level of education among Jehovah's Witnesses (when compared with that of the average Muscovite), which tends toward independent rational thinking and decision-making

Now, this would give Joe Public that the average JW is therefore able to think for himself, and reach his own conclusions independantly. But compare the above quote with the following quotes below taken from WT publications in the past.

The Watchtower

So, does this mean that either the JW's have received new light on the subject of independant thinking, or the article that I've quoted above is yet another shameless peice of propaganda put out by the JW's in order to catch out an unsuspecting public who may not know about the WT's past views on the subject?

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Why God Calls Them "Bastards"

by metatron in

again and again, we see individuals try to appeal to whatever is left of the watchtower's collective conscience.. appeals are made to stop killing innocent naive people on the blood issue.

appeals are made to try to change their.

sick defense of child molesters.

figureheaduk

Is it because he likes to use mild langauge?

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My Farewell To You

by Victor_E in

dear fellow brothers in arms,.

the time has come for me to bid you farewell.

this monday was a day to memorialize our fallen heroes.

figureheaduk

I wish you all the best Victor, whever you may decide to tread........

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Polytheism - Jehovah has same status as other gods

by Sirona in

who here is polytheistic?

is jehovah just another god?

is he on a par with osiris / pan / cernunnos / whoever?.

figureheaduk

So what's the difference between "Jehovah" and the likes of Thor, Onedin, Mars and all the other mythic Greek/Roman gods?

(p.s. sorry if anyone gets offended by that............)

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I AM PREGNANT!!!

by kelpie in

i cannot believe that i am pregnant and finally going to have a baby of my own!!!!!!

yahhhhh for me.

my first born is due on christmas eve.. we are all very excited here..... .

figureheaduk

Congratulations!

Figurehead xxx

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The WT on witchcraft

by figureheaduk in

felt a little bored earlier so i decided to take a trip over to the wt's badly researched propaganda official site, when i stumbled upon this little gem concerning the wiccan faith:.

http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/2000/4/1/article_02.htm.

it's the usual waffle from the (old) boys in brooklyn about paganism is worshipping satan, only the bible (and by implication that the wt) is the absolute "truth" blah, blah, blah.

figureheaduk

Felt a little bored earlier so i decided to take a trip over to the WT's ~~badly researched propaganda~~ official site, when i stumbled upon this little gem concerning the Wiccan faith:

http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/2000/4/1/article_02.htm

It's the usual waffle from the (old) boys in brooklyn about paganism is worshipping satan, only the bible (and by implication that the WT) is the absolute "truth" blah, blah, blah. But the following quote stood out at me:

"Jehovah gave these laws to his people because he loved them and did not want them to become enslaved by fear and superstition"

Hang on a minute, isn't this supposed to be the same god whose "organization" is using fear of being wiped out at armageddon to control it's members? It seems to me that when the WT talks about other faiths, they are quite happy (and quick) to talk about fear, opression and false teachings that are apparently involved. However, when talking about themselves the WT conveniently excludes any mention of fear, opression and false teachings (1975 etc. anyone?) that it has inflicted/continues to inflict on it's followers.

Just my thoughts at the moment, and in the fine tradition of free speech, there's no need to agree with me. Be warned though, I am wearing my asbestos flame-retardent suit........

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Do elders feel trapped once appointed?

by JH in

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friends

when you become an elder, it's for life.

that's scary, because who wants all that responsibility?.

do you think that brothers with lots of responsibilities envy those that don't have any?.

figureheaduk

Those with none (but then who am I to say?)