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RIP Dansk (aka Ian), 18.12.1953- 20.12.2008

by faundy in

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friends

have posted this on the other thread but just making this one as well:

i need to let you know that dad passed away this morning at 8am.

he fought so hard but in the end they could not get his blood pressure to rise and he died of heart failure.

Do you feel embarrassed, humiliated, anger that you were a Jw?

by LouBelle in

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friends

i ask because some posters say they felt totally humiliated, or wonder how they could have been sucked in, or some are extremely bitter and angry about their past.

over the nearly 4 years i've come to totally accept that i was a jw, but have made my peace, and honestly can say i've forgiven, if you will, that part of my life.

totally moved on and do not have negative feelings about it.

I used to be embarrassed about it. Not anymore. If anything, I feel I was unfortunate to wind up in it, as it happened when I was a child. Other than that, there's not really any feelings attached to it. The only thing that makes me angry is all the lies I was told.

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Those Who Host Videos On Youtube, Post Your most Popular Video!

by Nosferatu in

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friends

if you host videos on youtube, please share the one video that has the most views.

here's mine:.

posted on sept. 16, 2007, has 67,430 views.

Nosferatu

If you host videos on youtube, please share the one video that has the most views. Here's mine:

Posted on Sept. 16, 2007, has 67,430 views. (For those who don't know, it's a Commodore 64 floppy drive playing music)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnMgmlKi_o

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Got a new Blackberry yesterday

by coffee_black in

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friends

my company just got many of us a new blackberry curve.

it will take me ages to understand all it can do... camera, video, email, internet, maps, contacts...sheesh..it goes on forever, not to mention the phone and instant messaging..... i keep pushing the wrong button when someone calls...so i disconnect... or get an email and think it's a phone call and try to answer it... and oh...the tiny tiny keypad!.

i'll catch on eventually.... all i can say is that technology has come a very long way!.

Nosferatu

I got a blackberry through my workplace. It makes me miss my Palm :(

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Governing Body's new neuroscience program better than Cambridge University

by Dogpatch in

i don't know what to make of this.

i assume this is a real lecture given in cyprus, apparently recently (original jw email dated dec. 1st).

anyone know this guy?

Nosferatu

And I stoopidly believed that Jesus said "Nobody comes to the Son unless the Father draws him."

I drew the sun, so what happens now?

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Memorial Thread for "The 144,000 of JWD"

by cameo-d in

as we say goodbye to jwd and our friends here, i wanted to start a memorial thread to remember some of the posters who made jwd a living entity.

i hope everyone will participate in acknowledging others who made jwd so special.. .

gopher seemed to be the st. peter of jwd.

Nosferatu

Puternut. This place will always remind me of him and the tragic news we recieved.

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Governing Body's new neuroscience program better than Cambridge University

by Dogpatch in

i don't know what to make of this.

i assume this is a real lecture given in cyprus, apparently recently (original jw email dated dec. 1st).

anyone know this guy?

Nosferatu

- "the new, amazing neuro-linguistic LANGUAGE TEACHING program being used by the Governing Body all over the world."

That's pretty scary that they're using NLP along with their brainwashing. For anybody who doesn't really know what NLP is, I pulled this from wikipedia:

- "Neuro-linguistic programming studies and models how people think about their lives, and how to work with the underlying cognitive and emotional processes at a practical level. "

In other words, they're using it to help brainwash others on a deeper level. I've looked into NLP used in dating and seduction, and even have some materials on it stored away on a CD-ROM. I decided against using it since it was so impersonal, but I've read many, many experiences and instances where it actually does work. The method of anchoring to the outsider can only be describes as weird or creepy, while the 'victim' is completely entransed in what's going on. It's almost like a form of hypnotism. A person can anchor positive feelings about themselves to, say, a packet of salt. Whenever the 'victim' looks at or touches the salt packet, they think positively of the person who anchored those feeling to the packet. Now, replace the salt packet with a copy of the New World Translation and you've got a JW Convert, or an effective Shepherding call.

More from Wikipedia:

Techniques

Rapport

NLP proposed a number of simple techniques involving matching, pacing and leading for establishing rapport with people.[46] There are a number of techniques explored in NLP that are supposed to be beneficial in building and maintaining rapport such as: matching and pacing non-verbal behavior (body posture, head position, gestures, voice tone, and so forth) and matching speech and body rhythms of others (breathing, pulse, and so forth).[46]

Anchoring

Anchoring is the process by which a particular state or response is associated (anchored) with a unique anchor. An anchor is most often a gesture, voice tone or touch but could be any unique visual, auditory, kinesthetic, olfactory or gustatory stimulus. It is claimed that by recalling past resourceful states one can anchor those states to make them available in new situations. A psychotherapist might anchor positive states like calmness and relaxation, or confidence in the treatment of phobias and anxiety, such as in public speaking.[60] Proponents state that anchors are capable of being formed and reinforced by repeated stimuli, and thus are analogous to classical conditioning.

Anchoring appears to have been imported into NLP from family systems therapy as part of the 'model' of Virginia Satir.[61]

Swish

Swish is a novel visualization technique for reducing unwanted habits. The process involves disrupting a pattern of thought that usually leads to an unwanted behavior such that it leads to a desired alternative. The process involves visualizing the trigger or 'cue image' that normally leads to the unwanted behavior pattern, such as a smoker's hand with a cigarette moving towards the face. The cue image is then switched a number of times with a visualization of a desired alternative, such as a self-image looking resourceful and fulfilled. The swish is tested by having the person think of the original cue image that used to lead to the undesired behavior, or by presenting the actual cue such as a cigarette to the client, while observing the responses. If the client stays resourceful then the process is complete. The name swish comes from the sound made by the practitioner/trainer as the visualizations are switched.[62][63] Swish also makes use of submodalities, for example, the internal image of the unwanted behavior is typically shrunk to a small and manageable size and the desired outcome (or self-image) is enhanced by making it brighter and larger than normal.[36] The swish was first published by Richard Bandler.[36]

Reframing
Main article: Reframing (NLP)

In NLP, reframing is the process whereby an element of communication is presented so as to transform an individual's perception of the meanings or "frames" attributed to words, phrases and events.[64] By changing the way the event is perceived "responses and behaviors will also change. Reframing with language allows you to see the world in a different way and this changes the meaning. Reframing is the basis of jokes, myths, legends, fairy tales and most creative ways of thinking."[65] The concept was common to a number of therapies prior to NLP.[13] For example, it appeared in the approaches of Virginia Satir, Fritz Perls and Milton Erickson and in strategic therapy of Paul Watzlawick.[66] There are examples in children's literature. Pollyanna, for example, would play The Glad Game whenever she felt downhearted to remind herself of the things that she could do, and not worry about the things that she could not change.[67]

Six step reframe

An example of reframing is found in the six-step reframe which involves distinguishing between an underlying intention and the consequent behaviors for the purpose of achieving the intention by different and more successful behaviors. It is based on the notion that there is a positive intention behind all behaviors, but that the behaviors themselves may be unwanted or counterproductive in other ways. NLP uses this staged process to identify the intention and create alternative choices to satisfy that intention.

Ecology and congruency

Ecology in NLP deals with the relationships between a client and his or her natural, social and created environments and how a proposed goal or change might retreat to his or her relationships and environment. It is a frame within which the desired outcome is checked against the consequences client's life and mind as systemic processes. It treats the client's relationship with self as a system and his or her relationship with others as subsystems that interact so when someone considers a change it is important therefore to take into account the consequences on the system as a whole.[68] Like gestalt therapy[69] a goal of NLP is to help the client choose goals and make changes that achieve a sense of personal congruency and integrity with personal and other aspects of the client's life.

Parts integration

Parts Integration creates a metaphor of different aspects (parts) of ourselves which are in conflict due to different goals, perceptions and beliefs. 'Parts integration' is the process of 'identifying' these parts and negotiating (or working) with each of these parts separately & together, with a goal of resolving internal conflict. Successful parts negotiation occurs by listening to and providing opportunities to meet the needs of each part and adequately addressing each part's interests so that they are each satisfied with the desired outcome. It often involves negotiating with the conflicting parts of a person to achieve resolution. Parts integration appears to be modeled on 'parts' from family therapy and has similarities to ego-state therapy in psychoanalysis in that it seeks to resolve conflicts that constitute a "family of self" within a single individual.

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You know a woman fancies you when.....?

by mtsgrad in

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friends

she laughs at your jokes.

Nosferatu

Believe it or not, this is all from my own experiences...

- She buys you a drink
- She leaves a little note in one of your pockets
- She stalks you
- She calls 10 times a day, leaving a message every second call
- She follows you into the men's bathroom and makes out with you
- She invites you into the bathroom to snort coke
- She punches you in the arm
- She touches your d1ck under the table
- She runs her fingers through your hair
- She rests her leg against yours
- She gets her friend(s) to ask you 20 questions
- She invites you onto the dance floor
- She's willing to screw up her engagement for one night with you
- She's willing to screw up her marriage for one night with you

There's probably more that I currently can't think of.

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Can my Dogs get saved at Armagedon will they grow old and die in Paradise?

by Witness 007 in

do pets get saved by jah with their owners?

i would be peeved off to survive and then find out my dogs died with the apostates!

if "every need will be furfilled" in the new system, how will i cope losing my beloved dogs to old age or armagedon in the paradise.

Nosferatu

- "There are horses in heaven according to the Watch Tower Society."

Is that those ones in the Revelation book with the skeletons riding them? Neat!

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NEW KM style

by stillajwexelder in

the january km is completely different.

the style has been totally revamped

Nosferatu

Perhaps they're preparing to set a new Armageddon date? Naaaaaaah!!!

Someone mentioned the idea of them getting rid of the yearbook. This publication serves almost no purpose for the R+F except to give them a nice storybook full of JW folklore. Either they need to make this publication of some value (why not study it at the new mini-book study) or get rid of the yearly money gobbler and just put experiences in a little box at the end of the Watchtower. Better yet, just put them on the website.

I also don't agree with getting rid of the monthly report. They need to make sure their publishers are spiritual or give them the boot. The WTS NEEDS the monthly report to keep the congregation clean of slackers who could give a bad example to the rest of the flock.