I think it is right that some people are hostile
Understand that it's not necessarily hostility to you as a person, just hostility (quite rightly!) to the Org and to the direction you seem so set on heading in.
glitter
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Witnessing at school
by I-follow-the-narrow-path ini was in class and by these two women (one who was a christian and the other student i am unsure of).
i asked them, randomly, "do you know much about jehovah's witnesses?
" -- they both said "yes" and the non-christian said "i had a jw friend and he really hated it... he disaproved of what they taught" -- i started to talk about shunning and disfellowship.
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Witnessing at school
by I-follow-the-narrow-path ini was in class and by these two women (one who was a christian and the other student i am unsure of).
i asked them, randomly, "do you know much about jehovah's witnesses?
" -- they both said "yes" and the non-christian said "i had a jw friend and he really hated it... he disaproved of what they taught" -- i started to talk about shunning and disfellowship.
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glitter
I talked so fast so that she wouldn't be able to talk herself. I did it without even knowing I was and she just looked at me with such a serious face.
You sort of bullied her here and didn't let her speak to defend her beliefs, no wonder she was so serious!
The cross is Pagan - guess what, so were the Romans!
It actually doesn't matter AT ALL whether it was cross or stake, because that's just being really pedantic. The point is that Jesus died for the sins of mankind and MOST importantly, he rose from the dead 3 days later. That's the important bit.
JWs don't believe Jesus died for everyone's sins or that he is a mediator between you and God. Even though this goes against what the Bible clearly says.
If people ask you questions about studying with the JWs, fine you can witness to them, or if you place literature with your teachers (such as the School brochure) or with your friends (such as Young People Ask), then fine. But school is for learning secular facts, not having theological debates! :) -
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Lets start our own urban Legend
by loosie inok this was suggested on another thread.
lets start our own jw urban legend.. attention all you story tellers out there.
lets make this good.. i will email it to all i know.
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glitter
A woman converts to being a dub, but her husband is opposed. She keeps trying to get him interested in the Truth, and after much persuading he agrees to come to the Public Talk with her just to shut her up. He gets a very warm welcome and is impressed with the talk. When he and the wife arrive home though, they see the whole house has been demolished in a gas explosion! If he'd been at home reading the paper and scratching his balls he would have been dead!
The husband immediately says "If your God can save my life once, I believe he can save it again at Armageddon!", gets baptised at the next Assembly, and they both become Pioneers. -
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Gods organisation here on Earth
by Dr Jekyll inok so we all know that the faithful and discrete slave class claim to be gods organisation here on earth and that they claim that a god of order would have an organisation to organise his followers but can anyone pull a scripture of of their hat that proves that god doesn't need an organisation here on earth?
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glitter
Someone will pop up here and give you a better answer no doubt :) but the actual Greek goes:
In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God. And God was the Word.
I read that for myself when I was looking an the JW interlinear edition (English with Greek underneath). Made me do this face: o_O there's no "a god" about it. :D Ask to see an interlinear and you can see for yourself.
I don't *understand* the Trinity, the whole idea also makes me do this face o_O :D... *but* the Bible seems to support it. I mean it says all things were made through the Word, but the very first line of the Bible is "In the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth"... so which is it?!
Also if people go "The Trinity is impossible"... who are we to put limits on what God can do? If He wants to be in 2 places at once, he can, because He's *God*! -
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Assemblies
by I-follow-the-narrow-path inso i was invited to an assembly by my jw teacher .
i think i will be pretty bored and feel out of place.
it is a 3 day assembly this summer and the jw said they were to invite everyone (interested).
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glitter
All that time devouted to an organization... are you serious???
Ah, but not one of us *realised* what we were doing was basically being part of a very strict book-club (at best, controlling cult at worst!)! We *thought* we were serving Jehovah.
It's great that you realise it's bad to waste time being devoted to an organisation. In fact JWs often say "The Organisation" or "The Society" to talk about the religion... now I'm out that sounds very creepy!
That timetable is actaully conservative. It doesn't include things like studying the childrens' publications with children, or if you're studying with interested ones yourself.
Also notice JWs don't say *people* very much, they always say "interested ones", or "young ones", etc. -
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Door to Door
by I-follow-the-narrow-path injust wondering... what do you think about the jw going door to door?
do you like it or dislike it?
my view is ( weather something is false or not) i think it is great someone shares what they love with someone else.
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glitter
<i>What will happen if one day I tell her.. I can not do this?
And I stop attending meeting and having bible study
What will be the result?</i>
Well I don't know her, so she might be really nice still - but if she's spending 100 hours a month in service she likely won't want to waste time just being your friend if there's nothing in it for the society. -
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Door to Door
by I-follow-the-narrow-path injust wondering... what do you think about the jw going door to door?
do you like it or dislike it?
my view is ( weather something is false or not) i think it is great someone shares what they love with someone else.
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glitter
Yes. JWs hope and pray every day that Armageddon will come. If only JWs are to survive, that means something like 1-2 BILLION children will die. That's the equivalent 9/11 happening with just children and babies every day for 700 years.
He killed lots and lots of children and babies in the Bible too. Either by Himself or by having his followers go and kill everyone in a village, even little children. Well except for the young girls he told his people to keep as sex slaves. -
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Door to Door
by I-follow-the-narrow-path injust wondering... what do you think about the jw going door to door?
do you like it or dislike it?
my view is ( weather something is false or not) i think it is great someone shares what they love with someone else.
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glitter
Are you telling me there is absolutley NOTHING good about this organization.
Sure there is bad, but nothing good?
I like that they don't teach there's a Hell. But when I was a kid the idea of my non-JW friends dying at Armageddon just because their mums and dads were Atheists, or Jews, or Muslims.
The JWs beleive Jehovah will kill little children, you know. -
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Door to Door
by I-follow-the-narrow-path injust wondering... what do you think about the jw going door to door?
do you like it or dislike it?
my view is ( weather something is false or not) i think it is great someone shares what they love with someone else.
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glitter
What do you mean.. "not so very nice places"
Apartment blocks where the stairwells and lifts have got urine and used needles in them. You might knock on the door of a violent mentally-ill person, or a drug dealer. In some parts of the world Witneeses have been kidnapped and murdered (recently!). -
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Door to Door
by I-follow-the-narrow-path injust wondering... what do you think about the jw going door to door?
do you like it or dislike it?
my view is ( weather something is false or not) i think it is great someone shares what they love with someone else.
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glitter
What happens after one gets baptised as a JW? Do they do the service before baptism? What would happen if I got Baptised?
Yes, once your study person feels you are confident and "know" enough, you'll be invited out on the work.
If you're baptised you'll be required to fill in a little form every month to let the JW Head Office know how long you spent in the ministry, how many publications you placed, and how many return visits or studies you went on. Your JW friend fills this form in about you.
Yo will be treated with suspicion if you ask too many questions.
Did Jesus tell His followers to keep these records? Doesn't Jehovah know *everything* already?
If you get baptised and you begin to believe something different about the Bible than the JWs currently teach, or you sin in some way, you can be thrown out, and your friends will not talk to you any more and will shun you. If any of your JW friends stops believing or sins, you would not be allowed to talk to them.
You would be disfellowshipped for coming to this website!
The JW beliefs also change over time. What you are being taught now could have an opposite teaching in 5 years time. If this belief changes to something you don't agree with you can't say. If you realise a JW belief goes against the Bible (like the teaching about your relationship with Jesus) you aren't allowed to tell anyone! You just have to teach a false teaching when you go door to door!!