here is an email we received the other day.
it illustrates the extent of the mind control the wts has over many of its members: .
"you must have been one of jehovah's witnesses in the past, and are now .
Since I am one of Jehovah's witnesses, I clicked on it, not realizing
it was a page full of slander.
<pedant> It's libel, not slander! </pedant> And you didn't anyway. Hasn't she got better things to do? Oh wait, she's a JW, so no...
Did you reply to her?
"we are not a cult!".
yeah, we've heard this one before.
how did/do the jws back up this statement?
Non-JW: You've been brainwashed!
Brainwashed Dub: Yes, I have - my mind has been washed clean by Jehovah's organization!
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what was the worst elder that you ever had to deal with?
i will post my story in a second...
1. There was an elder in my old cong who severely beat and tortured his pregnant wife all the time. Eventually she had the courage to leave him and was spirited away late in the evening by two other elders to our house in the country - far away and due to the circumstances that led to us moving there, not many people knew the address. My mum was her friend, knew the situation, had got away from my abusive dad herself, and we had plenty of room, so the elders knew the best place for her to be at that time was with us.
Unfortunately, the husband got to one of the people that did know it before us or the elders could warn her not to tell him (we had no phone then) and he turned up at about midnight and basically forced his way into the house and dragged his wife (who is all of about 4ft 11ins tall) and his young daughter (5 or so at the time and was asleep in her PJs in my little sister's room) out to his car.
The next Sunday, my mum was shunned at the hall because of "interfering" in this fine man's marriage - you see he was related by blood or marriage to most of the most prominent JWs in the city if not the *county* and they evidently thought how he was treating his wife was fine, after all, they had never stepped in to help her. The shunning went on for all the time my mum regularly attended.
And apart from some people leaving when he did a talk, nothing was done about him and he is still married and is still an elder. And his poor daughter is now a baptised JW.
2. This was just last week: A man who had to change congs because of vicious untrue rumors about his wife and a collegue couldn't make his own meeting because of work commitments and instead went to another. An elder from his old hall (who is a stupid childish d*ckhead b*stard at the best of times) was visiting and conducting the study and when the man raised his hand to comment (a very difficult thing for him to do at the best of times because of confidence and depression problems) the prat of an elder (who knew him) said "Oh who is this stranger? Shall we let him answer? What do you think?" and things like that to thoroughly show him up infront of the whole room just because he wasn't attending the "correct" hall! Just a stupid and spiteful way of acting.
Of course there are loads and loads more. Some/most elders are such idiots, yet at the time and even sometimes now they feel so important and powerful, more "in-charge" of you than teachers or the police!
it's the local council and parliamentary elections in scotland today and i've voted for the first time.
the rain and voter apathy look harder to overcome than witness indoctrination as up to now the turn out seems low.. strangely, my jw family, despite their neutrality, are all keenly interested in how i vote.
i wonder if they could be persuaded to break the taboo.
Me too!
well, i don't have the most active or exciting life, so i've been thinking about getting a pet to liven things up a little around the homestead.
dogs?
too much commitment, also high ownership expenses.
Rats are great pets. Over the years we've had about 70. They don't bite or smell or anything and are really easy to tame and house - get a large special mesh rat cage and have loads of platforms and toys, plus wood and a small-ish stone for their teeth and claws. Get a pair of girl ones though because they like to play and run around and swing off the bars of their cage and ride around inside your sleeve - boy ones just sleep *all the time*.
north korea said it would win a nuclear war against the us.. now how can that be done, since they admit not making any nukes???
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seoul, south korea --in another verbal barrage aimed at washington, north korea says it will win any nuclear conflict with the united states thanks to pyongyang's "army-first" political system.. "victory in a nuclear conflict will be ours and the red flag of army-first politics will flutter ever more vigorously," a north korean state radio broadcast said, as reported by south korea's yonhap news agency.. "our victory is certain and the future ever more radiant.".
I dunno how many "winners" there would be in a nuclear war at all...
i've just been playing back farkels rendition of his "dubsticks".
it really makes me smile, the way that he makes the melody weave in an out of "chopsticks" and then "from house to house" in a way that is so fluid that it brings to mind the almost seamless stitching together of the old "hooked on 45's" and "hooked on classics" albums of the early 80's.. so i was thinking, what kingdub songs could we weave effortlessly into existing music?
i can think of two or three right now.. "we thank you jehovah" bears more than a passing resemblance to haydns "creation" imho.. then again "keep your eyes on the pies" is almost, to my tuneless ear anyway, a carbon copy of "some day my prince will come" from the movie snow white.. finally, an old kingdub song whose name escapes me, but carrying the words "it's your commission now to preach", always puts me in mind of the main them running through wagners "lohengrin".. now i'm not suggesting for one minute that maestro farkel should work on melodies such as these for the sole purpose of our mutual tittilation.
LittleToe: When was that?
i've just been playing back farkels rendition of his "dubsticks".
it really makes me smile, the way that he makes the melody weave in an out of "chopsticks" and then "from house to house" in a way that is so fluid that it brings to mind the almost seamless stitching together of the old "hooked on 45's" and "hooked on classics" albums of the early 80's.. so i was thinking, what kingdub songs could we weave effortlessly into existing music?
i can think of two or three right now.. "we thank you jehovah" bears more than a passing resemblance to haydns "creation" imho.. then again "keep your eyes on the pies" is almost, to my tuneless ear anyway, a carbon copy of "some day my prince will come" from the movie snow white.. finally, an old kingdub song whose name escapes me, but carrying the words "it's your commission now to preach", always puts me in mind of the main them running through wagners "lohengrin".. now i'm not suggesting for one minute that maestro farkel should work on melodies such as these for the sole purpose of our mutual tittilation.
You're all spot on, I'm laughing my ass off here singing along to them with the REAL words!
There's a hymn that they ripped off too - I just can't think of it off the top of my head...
I used a midi of Song 4 in a computer game I made - it sounds a bit like the sort of music on underwater levels in Mario or something doesn't it.
I hate it when a song that sounds exactly like another or parts of another and I just can't think of the name of the original.
i know that this subject has been talked about many times, but i am convinced that if the wts gets more fanatical, they will eventually ban witnesses from going on the internet.
yeah, i know it sounds goofy, but there are so many witnesses who are leaving as a result of what they have found on the net that the wts will have no choice, but to do it.
they will probably find some "new light" and probably sight some bible scripture.
Maybe they won't state in a magazine that it's not allowed, but did they ever state in a magazine that Smurfs are demonized? They don't *need* to.
I bet they'll have more and more stories about guarding against believing and spreading rumors, apostate lies, and how while the media is biased politically while they only follow Jehovah, blah blah blah.
