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  Do you think its talking down to you?

  by WildTurkey in

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  when talking to someone who never was a jw, and they say to you how could you ever fall for all that?

  it does bother me, cause i think it is some what condescending?

  how do you feel about these questions?

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  No one can truly understand what it's like unless they've been there themselves. Just look at Steve Hassan as one example, and his story of being recruited into the Moonies. He said himself that he never imagined that HE could possibly be lured into something like that. I was born and raised into it, rather than being approached at a "low point" in my life. Dubs are taught to ask questions and look for areas where the "householder" is possibly in need of encouragement or help, and they use that to their advantage; all it takes is one minor comment, someone is ill, someone just died, someone can't find a job, etc and Dubs jump right on it painting a picture that anyone would find appealing. The world is full of cults, with lots and lots of members, and they don't even know it.

  I can't recall a situation where I felt like someone was being truly condescending, but I have been asked, "Why don't people just leave?" Which brings up a long conversation, which sometimes I tire of. I just try to help them understand how no one can truly understand what happens unless they've been through it themselves and tell them how fortunate they are that they were not lured into it. If you've never experienced something personally, like a miscarriage, wife abuse, etc then there's no way for true understanding.
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  crazy JW family stories

  by shera in

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  my father is a painter and he went on a job to home after a jw family moved out.he noticed there was wiring under the flooring going to the fridge.he asked what this was about and the landlord told him a jw family lived here and the father wired the fridge to an alarm.he would only allow his family to eat when he said so.if they tried to sneak any food it would set the alarm off,i was told they went there separate ways.wonder why?

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  Good Gawd, that's pathetic! I detest control freaks, and the org is swarming with them! My father is one, my brother(s) are, my ex husband is, and I've known lots of them in the org and couldn't stand them! It makes my blood boil when brothers throw around that phrase about being in subjection. They can kiss my subjective arse!!!
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  Signs of the Last Days?

  by Lin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would appreciate some serious discussion and comments on signs of the last days.

  i've already run a search for previous posts on the subject, and most of what i found was silly, sarcastic, name calling, etc, but nothing of any real value.

  i would really like some information, links even, for some valuable information on the subject.

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  Thanks Kingpawn, I appreciate your comments. I grew up with so much fear of the End Times, that it's really hard to shake that off. "Keeping on the watch" and all that jazz, watching events unfolding throughout the world, still creates fear in me over, "Could this be IT?" Could this threat of nuclear war be the beginning of Armageddon, etc. I don't know if I should or want to read that thread you mentioned right now, but I might later. I've been doing so much reading and research, reading many threads on various topics, that I think I'm on overload today.
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  Understanding Matthew 24. What does it mean?

  by apocalypse in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  about matthew 24

  have you read this chapter?

  all those who have called themselves "christian" have at one time or another read it, and wondered.

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  Joseph, my comment was referring to Gumby, not you hon. I have no problem with the various discussions within the thread, and even disagreement, but Gumby made the slam immediately that the thread was too long and that it's why not too many hits or viewers have come to this thread. I wasn't referring to you, ok?
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  Understanding Matthew 24. What does it mean?

  by apocalypse in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  about matthew 24

  have you read this chapter?

  all those who have called themselves "christian" have at one time or another read it, and wondered.

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  I would first like to say that after reading EVERY word of this thread, the first comment posted was a put down regarding the length of this thread. That really saddened me. I read every single word, and did not even for a moment think to myself Geez this is a long post. I was extremely wrapped up into the information, and for the poster to get slammed like that was completely uncalled for.

  I would like to thank you for all your hard work and time it took for you to put all this together, to help people like me get a different viewpoint on these scriptures, as the only viewpoint I've ever had on this topic amongst others has been that of my jw upbringing. Being born and raised a Dub, their interpretation of these scriptures is all I've EVER known. I'm desperately "groping" for better and clearer understanding of God's Word, and threads like this are so incredibly important to me. Please don't stop them, even if you are attacked for the length of them. These are greatly needed, for me personally as well as so many others like me. Please keep up your hard work, it's greatly appreciated.

  Just being able to read your verse by verse discussion of these scriptures brought tears to my eyes so much so that I had trouble being able to see through my tears. I've tried so hard to clear my mind from all the fear of the Last Days taught me as a Dub, and I've been wondering and perhaps even worrying about the threat of nuclear war, if it could be fulfillment of the "great tribulation" and what would happen next. Posts like this are so helpful to me. Thank you again for all the work it took for you to put this together. I look forward with anticipation to further threads like this one.

  You make me want to start reading my Bible again, which I haven't done in years since leaving the org in '95. Just today I bought "The Message" by Eugene Peterson, because I want to start reading and REALLY learning truth about God and His Word.

  ((((((((Well deserved hugs to you))))))))))
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  Signs of the Last Days?

  by Lin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would appreciate some serious discussion and comments on signs of the last days.

  i've already run a search for previous posts on the subject, and most of what i found was silly, sarcastic, name calling, etc, but nothing of any real value.

  i would really like some information, links even, for some valuable information on the subject.

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  Thanks for your comments. Buster, on the thread that Valis posted, there was someone there who mentioned that book, which I've yet to read, but intend to. I will also read the information about Matthew 24 as well. To be honest, I don't really remember alot about the whole King of the North and of the South, other than the part where the U.S. is supposedly one of the "kings". And, wasn't Russia supposedly the other king, and we were supposedly to be in some monumental attack/war with them and all that jazz? I vaguely recall hearing or reading somewhere the Society has backed off of the belief that Russia is the other king? I'm asking, I really don't remember. I didn't do alot of study into Daniel either, so you guys/gals can clue me on that if you can until I have the opportunity to read it all myself. Geez, I have so much to read! I have the NIV Bible and the NIV/NASB Bible, and just today I bought "The Message" by Eugene Peterson. So I look forward to some really good reading.

  The subject is the Last Days is of course a big one for me, since I've got so much stuff my dad said stuck in my head. Like, he used to say that our country would become much like a communist state/military state; that things like the internet would be eliminated totally; that jw's would be put into "safe places" provided by God, like in jails, concentration camp type places because "God wants to keep his people safe while He destroys everyone else", and things like that. Plus, I can't get out of my head the scripture that talks about the Great Tribulation being something bigger and the worst occurrence mankind had ever imagined, or something to that effect. (It's been awhile since I've opened a Bible). And the only thing I can think of that could/would be the biggest, worst thing I can personally imagine is a massive nuclear war. Which, given the situation we're in now with Osama-Yo-Mama and that other ass*&%#, it's been on my mind alot. So, please comment and post any references you like, or suggested reading material to your hearts content. I need all the help with this that I can.

  Believe me, I'd LOVE to let all this built-in, taught fear of the Last Days just slip right out of my mind, but I need some help with this. So, please.......comment. I appreciate all the help.
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  Signs of the Last Days?

  by Lin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would appreciate some serious discussion and comments on signs of the last days.

  i've already run a search for previous posts on the subject, and most of what i found was silly, sarcastic, name calling, etc, but nothing of any real value.

  i would really like some information, links even, for some valuable information on the subject.

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  Thanks Valis! Now, THAT'S what I was looking for!!! Thanks MUCH!!!

  LOL, don't worry about me finding Gloria's, I'll be there no matter what!
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  Signs of the Last Days?

  by Lin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would appreciate some serious discussion and comments on signs of the last days.

  i've already run a search for previous posts on the subject, and most of what i found was silly, sarcastic, name calling, etc, but nothing of any real value.

  i would really like some information, links even, for some valuable information on the subject.

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  I would appreciate some SERIOUS discussion and comments on Signs of the Last Days. I've already run a search for previous posts on the subject, and most of what I found was silly, sarcastic, name calling, etc, but nothing of any real value.

  I would really like some information, links even, for some valuable information on the subject. Having been born and raised a dub, the subject seems to stay in my mind, especially with threats of nuclear war etc. I'm also in contact with others who post on Silentlambs who have asked me questions about this subject as well, and I'd really like to offer them some worthwhile information.

  Is there any articles written (which I can't seem to find on any of the main sites I've checked) on the subject? Is there any good info out there on the subject?

  (I know we ALL die at some point, but those who believe in Bible prophecy about the End Times understand how the subject is huge in Dubville, and I'd really like to have some info to refute what Dubs have taught on the subject).

  What have you come to understand/believe on the subject?

  http://groups.msn.com/WatchtowerExcape
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  To ROCKET!

  by Lin in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  you had posted comments on another topic i'd started about palatine and the milenger's.

  i would love to talk to you more and would appreciate it if you'd email me directly.

  i had replied to your comments on the other topic page asking for you to write me, but i thought maybe you didn't see it, so i decided to post a new topic to you.

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  Lin

  You had posted comments on another topic I'd started about Palatine and the Milenger's. I would love to talk to you more and would appreciate it if you'd email me directly. I had replied to your comments on the other topic page asking for you to write me, but I thought maybe you didn't see it, so I decided to post a new topic to you. Please email me, I'd love to talk to you.

  Lin
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  Crap,,,,,,, now I think I am addicted to cigs...

  by LyinEyes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been smoking off and on for over a year,,,,,,,never smoked before this year in my life.. it all started just for the hell of it.

  then as my hub and i started going out dancing and hitting the town, cig smoke was everywhere.

  i would comehome with it in my hair and all over my clothes.

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  Megadude, thanks for posting that. I've seen that info before, but it's a good reminder.

  I started smoking just 2 1/2 yrs ago, yeah yeah yeah I know I know. I started out of a sense of jw rebellion, but also because I had a whole lot going on in my life at the time, with dub family etc. I've always smoked Marlboro Lights (menthol), but I plan to quit. I'm getting married next May, and I'm going to be singing a song to my new husband at the reception, and I want it to sound really good and I don't want to run out of breath when I need to hold a long note. Considering the song I'm going to do is originally by Barbara Streisand, I need all the breath I can get to hold those dang notes! LOL I'm hoping that it won't be AS hard for me to quit as it is for those who've smoked longer, I don't know, I just hope it won't be that hard for me. I will just have to keep my hands busy and do something else at the times I'd usually light one up.