Scooby, not in a million years!
Posts by Lin
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Inactive.....but curious....
by ScoobySnax ini was just thinking after reading some of the posts, and wanted to ask you something..... do any of you feel, and i mean right in the back of your minds, that jws might still have the true faith (truth).
i've been inactive for a few years now and don't attend meetings at the kh, apart from the memorial, and occasional convention.
please don't shout me down, its just that to me, even though i've been out for a while and my reasons for "drifting" away were very painful to me, i don't feel as the majority do here.
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Last Call for Stuffed Lambs!
by gwyneth inthe last of the lambs arrived today, as well as the ribbon.
(my cup runneth over with 500 lambs!
)they are scheduled for delivery tomorrow, for those of you who've ordered them.
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Lin
My payment was mailed out last week, hopefully you've received it by now. ???
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Who can I say "HI" to at the SL march?
by TTBoy ini have made the commitment to go to the sl march.
i'm supplying a ride for someone who is in need.
i'm even buying new tires and brakes to make sure my ride is safe for the trip :).
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Lin
TTBoy, I'm glad you were able to make contact with our mutual friend. I hope for both of you, you are able to go and there won't be any problems with work or car, etc. I personally appreciate very much your willingness to take her along, she's very excited about being there in my place, as well as my two nieces place. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for ya!
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The dreaded disfellowshiping
by link in.
i have been informed on good authority (a dub for 27 years) that you cannot get disfelowshiped for committing a wrongdoing, only for being unrepentant.. can anyone tell me if this is true or not, and if it is not where the misunderstanding comes from?
link
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Lin
This whole subject makes me laugh. Repentance? HA!
My brother the "elder" was busted for having an affair with a married sister (he was also married), but he played the "elder" game, knowing exactly what to do and how to do it, and how hard to cry, knowing to say things like What have I done to Jehovah?!!!! Oh My God, cry cry cry....boohoo.
If you know how to play the game, you might get off scot free like my brother did, otherwise you're screwed.
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Can a Christian and a JW be happily married?
by janiemh inmy husband and i are currently separated (since 6/02) we have not ruled out the possibility of reconciliation and are working on some issues.
about 2 years before this separation, we both started studying with jw's.
we went to sunday meetings and had weekly in-home bible studies.
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Lin
Jamiemh, I wish I could tell you that it would work just fine, but I don't believe for a second that it could. If your husband sticks with the jw's, there would be constant conflict and turmoil. He would feel the need to teach your children jw beliefs and work hard to indoctinate them as well. Jw's always teach that current jw's can "help non believers" by their witness type behavior, so he would be trying in covert ways to draw you in too, perhaps subconsciously through your children. I say, Be afraid, be very afraid.
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Abuse in other religions?
by wednesday ini have been a jw all my life and i'm in mid to late 40's.
i've seen much abuse.currently i am inactive/attend occ meeting.. my husband who is also a jw and attends some meetings but has been inactive in service for some time due to depression.not at all responsive to me talking to him about this site.he defends jw to the end.my question has to do with other religions than jw.
my husband says that issues like child molestation/ abuse and rape have not generally been dealt well with by anybody until lately.i am from texas and here the baptist and church of christ are major religions.
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Lin
Wednesday, I'm in Texas too. Although other religions may likely have abuse problems as well, and may at some point become public knowledge, what goes on within the jw's is by far harsher. Those of us who've been hurt, as have I, are told to "get over it", threatened with df'ing and loss of everyone we ever knew including our families if we speak out. Jw mentality is to blame the victim, ostracize the victim, and hide and cover up and protect the abuser(s). Not only are jw children at risk, but the children of the general public. Just think of all the school children out on summer break that are latch-key kids, and some jw pedophile comes a knockin. It has to stop.
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What Are You All Doing Now?
by Tish ini am at a crossroads in my life, and wanted your opinions:.
i have been d/f for 18 months, i have learnt enough to know jws are completely misguided, but my sis has also been d/a for questioning things, she has been doing the alpha course and is getting baptised at a baptist church next weekend, which i am very pleased for her to be doing if she feels it's right.
i am in a quandry as i am very sceptical about going to another religion, i know many i have spoken to say, it isn't joining a religion but just associating with other christians.
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Lin
I can definitely understand your thoughts here. I was df'd in '95 in for a few years had no interested whatsoever in even hearing anything spiritual or religiously natured. In 2000, I visited a non denominational church in the area and really liked it, especially since many of the people attending there I already knew through my job. I attended there for about a year, joined the choir etc, but then left again feeling overwhelmed.
What I will say to you is the same I would say to anyone with your question: Before considering visiting or joining a church/religion/denomination, FIRST read Ray Franz book Crisis of Conscience, and then Steve Hassan's book Combatting Cult Mind Control. In my opinion, after reading those books, anyone will be "armed" to protect themselves and can choose to attend or visit churches and not be reeled into another bad situation. Just this past Sunday I attended the same non denominational church I just mentioned and I just feel "drawn to it".
Don't rush yourself, and don't allow anyone to pressure you to do anything you don't feel comfortable with. One step at a time.
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Where did Silentlambs.org go?????
by BadJerry in.
tried to get to http://www.silentlambs.org/ but come up with some enzim.net page.
badjerry
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Lin
It didn't come up for me either just now, just some enzim sorta thing.
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I need help with a dub who is leaving
by Nowhere ini have a problem..... ok, i'm almost finished... but... what now?
how can that person begin to live a normal life, and don't feel so guilty all the time?
what's the next step.
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Lin
I understand your worries and concerns, but no one should be encouraged to continue living a lie. Please remember that it will take time for the jw indoctrination and mind control to be relieved. If your friend hasn't already read Ray Franz book, please encourage them to do so. Also, I feel everyone should read Steve Hassan's book called Combatting Cult Mind Control. It helped me immensely. It will take time to come to terms with what the jw's have done to your friend, please don't rush anything. One step at a time. That's all any of us can do.
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Okay here goes....My Story. Long but true.
by Lin inplease bear with me through this, this could likely become lengthy.
i feel it's time for me to give you my story as a dub.
i was born and raised in an extremely "hardcore", strict witness home.
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Lin
I would like to thank everyone that replied to my story. I also want to let you all know that these things from my childhood no longer haunt or torment me in any real sense, nor does the abuse from my previous marriage. I've moved on from that, and accept the loss of my family. The things I went through, which I certainly only highlighted in my story, otherwise it would have become a book! LOL But, I know that I am a very strong woman, how else could I have survived my past and been able to move on. The abuse I suffered is in the past, but my future is bright and beautiful. I decided to tell my story for anyone here who could relate from their own experiences knowing they are not alone. But, also for the newbies here and the current jw's to have one more life story to help open their eyes to what they are living. If there is just one person, just one, who'se eyes will be opened to the travesty the org is, than it will have been well worth the time it took to write it all out.
This was all brought up because I felt it was important for my fiance' to know me, really know me. Know my past and sufferings, to know where I came from, the things I experienced, and for him to really know me. I felt it was the fair and loving thing for me to do. My participation on the Silentlambs board, helping direct anyone who needed comfort, support, someone to relate to, direction to information about the jw's, a shoulder to cry on, links to pages to open blinded eyes, has meant alot to me. Anyone who emails me, I will reply to and help in any way I can. But, my personal participation in the "cause" will soon have to end, on Sept 27th. On September 22nd, several of us will spend that morning handing out flyers to passersby on a busy intersection, to help bring up the publics awareness that even their own children are put at risk while jw pedophiles are knocking on their door. Perhaps, while the parents aren't even home. On September 27th, I will also participate in putting lambs, at least 50 of them, on Kingdom Hall door steps. That will be my final statement, as I will put my personal lamb I have in my car window on the doorstep of my parents K.H. Then my focus and time and attention must switch to my upcoming wedding and being a good wife to my husband. Even after that day, anyone who emails me will be replied to as I said above. But, I'm moving on with my life, separate and apart from the jw issues and my family. I simply don't want to the spend the rest of my life constantly connected to a lie. On September 27th, I will bid "ado" to all of you here and those on Silentlambs, with a message to email me anytime.
Again, thank you all for your comments.