slimboy, i felt that way at first, although i was disapointed as a bethelite at the time to learn of it, but it didnt really shake me. Later, when I read a positive article they wrote about the UN in the Awake! magazine, while trashing it in talks and other publications, realizing they said it was to gain access to this "library" it seemed like much more than just a library card.
OneEyedJack
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This is well worth remembering
by The Quiet One inhttp://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/oct/08/religion.world?view=desktop.
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My grandmother passed away at 4:55am
by losingit inimtyping this on my phone, please excuse the misspellings.
i'm sad.
she lived a long life, 90 years, and battled alzheimer's for the last 5 years of her life.
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OneEyedJack
I am sorry for your loss, my great grandmother had alzheimers for many years, she lived to be over 100. I felt so sad for her growing up, watching her with that disease. Hopefully science can progress more so future generations can eliminate it.
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Branch Organization Manual! download .....
by notgoinback inas my second post on this forum, i want to share this with you guys!
this is the official branch organization manual (updated 2003) of jehovah's witnesses:.
http://jhonlemos.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/branch-organization-watchtower.pdf.
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OneEyedJack
Thanks for sharing, my to-read list keeps growing.
People ask why there is such an amount of secrecy with the translators. Its because if they are kept confidential, no one can question their qualifications. A brother who worked in my department in Brooklyn spoke russian and another language from that part of the world (I'm not hiding the language, just cant remember it at the moment). He was a nice enough guy, but had never been to school to be formally trained in anything like that. He got shipped to another country to work in their translation department, doing actual translating. It was the joke of our department that whatever language he was working on might not be getting that "extra portion of holy spirit" that the dubs always pray for.
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Traffic stats for JW-n
by Terry inhttp://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/jehovahs-witness.net#trafficstats.
alexa traffic ranks.
how is this site ranked relative to other sites?.
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OneEyedJack
Yes, I would not 100% trust stats on where visits are coming from. I use a proxy server, not because I have much to hide, but it is supposedly more secure, so i might as well and it doesnt slow anything down.
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Question about "millions now living will never die"
by Perversion of a truth inokay, so the other day someone posted something about the talk in 1918 givin by rutherford (also released in pamplet and the talk repeated numerous times through 1924) titled "the world has ended, millions now living will never die".
when looked up on the watchtower library, numerous times the talk is sometimes referred to as "millions now living will never die" and also "millions now living may never die".
my question is there some honest explanation as to why some times it would read "will" and other times read "may"?
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OneEyedJack
Let's let Fred Franz, former president of the WT, explain the theories on when the world was supposed to end himself. He does it well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7coPgNoGQU
The whole video is worth a listen, but he specifically adresses this at about 5:30
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Jehovah's Witnesses Couple died in murder suicide
by Watchtower-Free inhttp://www.suffolknewsherald.com/2013/07/25/couple-died-in-murder-suicide-police-say/.
july 25 2013. couple died in murder-suicide, police say.
suffolk police say the couple found dead in their nansemond river drive home wednesday were victims of a murder-suicide.. they have been identified as lucy celenia perry, 67, and her husband dennis joseph perry, 64.. autopsies showed dennis perry shot his wife before turning the gun on himself, city spokeswoman diana klink said in a press release.
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OneEyedJack
Pretty sad. Breaks my heart actually, seeing so many of the older JW's getting sick and broke. My grandparents are almost 90 and barely get around anymore. When they came in the truth they were promised they would never grow old and die. But they are still faithful to this organization. Even called me to invite me to CO visit today. It has to somehow rock their faith that they are growing old and dying. My grandfather finally admitted to me he hopes he dies before Armageddon because hes to old to go through the times it describes. I wish I could mentally free him, but its all hes known for the last 75 years.
If this was a mercy killing, as it seems to be, I can just imagine them hoping for forgiveness as they went through their decision.
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Another non-JW reacts to Sparlock video
by cedars inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-ssv2nh0rc.
and two weeks ago i highlighted another video where sparlock helped an ex-mormon.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmesmlhydru.
though it still depresses me to think of all the young ones (including my own relatives) falling under the influence of this dangerous piece of propaganda, it's at least some small comfort that the sparlock video is backfiring so dramatically among thinking non-jws.. .
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OneEyedJack
Did the Sparlock video get pulled from jw.org or am I just not looking in the right place?
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OneEyedJack
designs - this "national conversation" is making this case about race which it should not. The "national conversation" is more likely to result in more ignorance and violence.
The media spins things whatever ways they want (to get ratings, and it worked) and millions of people made their minds up before this case was even brought to trial based on what they heard on twitter, facebook, and nancy grace. The state had their opportunity to present their evidence, and they clearly did not have the evidence to get a conviction. I would hope that if I was ever in a position that I had to defend my life, then stand trial for it, that my safety would not be at risk once I was deemed innocent. But because of the media, this guy is likely going to have to live in hiding for the rest of his life.
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OneEyedJack
Wow, how many people arguing that justice was not served actually watched every minute of the trial? And I am pretty sure that no one commenting here was listening in on the hours of jury deliberation.
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I found something in Watchtower literature I can agree with.
by Indian Larry ini ran across this excerpt from studies in the scriptures vol iv.
in it russell rails on as to why you should not tie youreself to any organization.
in a way he unknowingly predicts how the watchtower would turn against real "truth seekers" in their own organization, (quite possible the only prediction he ever got correct) and then goes on to show how the deluded witness just can't see how they can have a relationship with christ without a earthly organization.. .
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OneEyedJack
I was just having a similar discussion with a family member about how "God has always had a visible organization." Hardly. The greatest examples in the bible of followers of God actually did not belong to organizations. Poor Job at the top of the list. I mean, his story actually starts off "Once upon a time in a land far, far away" but I am sure its not made up in any way. Either way, back on topic, The more you look at biblical examples of "organization" its usually to show how WRONG things went.
Thanks for that link nonjwspouse!! You have just greatly added to some of my research ideas! Now I can show direct quotes, without it being just a partial quote on a site such as this.