So you have to be an apostate to post in this forum?? I thought the header said: Discussion forum for anything JW related. I find it nice to be able to interact with all types, from JW's seeking to defend their faith, to the standard issue apostate. I guess not. How boring...
nakedmvistar
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only negativity is permitted up in this place
by comforter incomfy just gotta come out retarment too protest the tone of this place.
anytime somebody call people to account for telling abuse stories that may be false, this place want to kick them off.
but it ok to tell false abuse stories, so long as it make wt look bad.
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Does God still exist for you?
by nakedmvistar ini'm quite new to this forum (only a handful of posts).
but from what i've read up to now, it seems apparent that some of you have abandoned your belief in a god.
is this because of trauma brought about by the jw religion?
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nakedmvistar
Hello all!
I'm quite new to this forum (only a handful of posts). But from what i've read up to now, It seems apparent that some of you have abandoned your belief in a God. Is this because of trauma brought about by the JW religion? And if you still hold to an existence of a Creator, what is your relationship with him now that your free from the JW's? Your replies will help me understand this forum a little better.
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What Is Your Favorite Overlooked Movie?
by gilwarrior inwhat i am talking about a movie that you thought was great, but is mostly forgotten by most people today.. well, my favorite overlooked movie is "a perfect world.
" in it kevin costner is an escaped felon who escapes from prison with another felon.
they then break into a house and kidnap a boy who is a (gasp!
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Portrait Of Dorian Grey---Black &white version of course! Best movie ever!!!!!!!!
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A complex question who of you knows the answer?
by MARTINLEYSHON inif baptism washes away your sins, as taught by jws, what prevents a disfellowshiped person who has moved to a new area and is not known in that area in attending meetings as an interested person and getting baptised within 6 months.. has anyone ever done that?
if so can the person be disfellowshipped a second time?
what would be his status.
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nakedmvistar
What would be the point? You would be starting out on a lie. defeats the purpose of it all.
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Should I have a Christmas tree?
by scuba99 inhi folks,.
i'm rather new here, only posted a couple of times.
although i have been visiting the site daily for a good 2 months now.
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nakedmvistar
AWWWWW...Larc finds it difficult to accept someone who doesn't believe or think the way he does. Happiness larc, is relative to the individual. Some find happiness in family and friends, others find it in there carreer etc, My happiness could be your sadness...get it? I'm sorry you don't see my point about holidays. I guess we agree to disagree. That too can be wonderful! Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem a little closed minded....I may not celebrate the holidays, but I try not to push my views onto others. I'm simply expressing my point of view on this forum. It's too bad you see others as sad for not being and doing what you do.
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One nation under God(s)?
by nakedmvistar ininto freemasonry have been poured the irradiations of the mystical schools of antiquity.
particularly is this so in the higher degrees of the order, such as the scottish rite, where undeniable traces of cabalism, neo-platonism, rosicrucianism, and other mystical cults are plainly discernible.
i do personally contend that freemasonry is the direct descendent of the mysteries, but that our ritual makers of the higher degrees have copied the ancient ceremonies of initiation so far as the knowledge of those ceremonies exists (henry r. evans, a history of the york and scottish rites of freemasonry, p. 8).. because most christians today are unaware of the manner in which christianity was melded with the esoteric philosophies of theosophy and jewish cabalism to produce a hybrid mystery religion known as freemasonry, they offer quotes from many of our founding fathers as evidence that they were christians.
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Into Freemasonry have been poured the irradiations of the mystical schools of antiquity. Particularly is this so in the higher degrees of the Order, such as the Scottish Rite, where undeniable traces of Cabalism, neo-Platonism, Rosicrucianism, and other mystical cults are plainly discernible. I do personally contend that Freemasonry is the direct descendent of the Mysteries, but that our ritual makers of the higher degrees have copied the ancient ceremonies of initiation so far as the knowledge of those ceremonies exists (Henry R. Evans, A History of the York and Scottish Rites of Freemasonry, p. 8).
Because most Christians today are unaware of the manner in which Christianity was melded with the esoteric philosophies of theosophy and Jewish Cabalism to produce a hybrid mystery religion known as Freemasonry, they offer quotes from many of our founding fathers as evidence that they were Christians. Indeed, some were even clerics. But just as one of today's most famous clerics, Norman Vincent Peale, was a Freemason (prelate of the Grand Encampment of the Knights Templar of the United States), many of the nation's founding fathers were also Freemasons who used peculiar definitions of Biblical language in asserting their beliefs.
This is not to say that they were not noble men. Freemasons pride themselves in their noble attitudes and adherence to strict moral codes. These are not "evil" men in the classical sense. But they are blinded to the true revelation of God's Word, and their religious philosophy embraces all religions as valid. To be a Freemason, one must believe in a supreme being, but he need not be a Christian.
Based upon the evidence of Masonic influences in the establishment of this nation, there is no doubt that the criteria necessary to classify the United States as a Christian nation were not met. An objective study of the Masonic affiliations of the founding fathers must cause Christians to reevaluate their own political philosophy. For if the United States is not a Christian nation then we must choose to whom we will commit "our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor" -- our Lord or our country.
20 GREATEST NAMES OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
John Adams - Spoke favorably of Freemasonry -- never joined
Samuel Adams - (Close and principle associate of Hancock, Revere & other Masons
Ethan Allen - Mason
Edmund Burke - Mason
John Claypoole - Mason
William Daws - Mason
Benjamin Franklin - Mason
Nathan Hale - No evidence of Masonic connections
John Hancock - Mason
Benjamin Harrison - No evidence of Masonic connections
Patrick Henry - No evidence of Masonic connections
Thomas Jefferson - Deist with some evidence of Masonic connections
John Paul Jones - Mason
Francis Scott Key - No evidence of Masonic connections
Robert Livingston - Mason
James Madison - Some evidence of Masonic membership
Thomas Paine - Humanist
Paul Revere - Mason
Colonel Benjamin Tupper - Mason
George Washington - Mason
Daniel Webster - Some evidence of Masonic connections
Summary: 10 Masons, 3 probable Masons, 1 Humanist, 2 Advocates of Freemasonry, 4 no record of connections -
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Should I have a Christmas tree?
by scuba99 inhi folks,.
i'm rather new here, only posted a couple of times.
although i have been visiting the site daily for a good 2 months now.
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nakedmvistar
If you are one who celebrates Christmas for whatever the reason, who am I to tell you any different? Your reason may be, you like it, and it makes you feel good, it's a tradition, everyone else is doing it, and it is good to set this day aside to celebrate the Birth of Christ. Plus the kids really like it and we do speak some about the Messiah. Most people reading this have brought into one or more of the above. So why should I say "HUM-BUG".
But just in case anyone is interested I thought I'd tell you about the real birth-day of (Jesus the Risen Messiah). But first we should take a quick look at how this all started. And where it came from.
To begin with you will not find this holiday in the Scriptures, simply because it is not one of God's Holiday's. Bible scholars as well as serious Bible students all agree that Yeshua was not born on Christmas "Saturnalia" but that He was born during the Feast of Tabernacles, which usually falls in September. But "Christians" keep making compromises for one reason or the other, so they will not be looked on as an odd ball or a party-pooper, or to avoid being rejected by others, or some just can't stand the criticism and then who wants to be persecuted for Christ sake these days.
In brief, this all came about through a man called Constantine, who is identified as the first Pope. His father was a Roman Emperor, and when he died Constantine took his army and marched against Rome. Constantine was a worshipper of Baal the sun god, and therefore had the support of the Pagans. There was one man that stood between him and the Throne of Rome he was Maxentius. And Constantine needed to gain the support of the Christians in order to have the victory he desired. We read in history that a sign was shown Constantine of a Cross and he had it put on the shield of his army. But this was not the Cross of Yeshua that represents the crucifixion of the Messiah. It was the cross of Ankh the symbol of the sun god. But he gained the support of the Christians of that day, and gained control of the Throne. He then professed to be a Christian, then he proceeded to sprinkle his soldiers with water making them instant Christians. There was of course no repentance required, not even a profession of faith in Yeshua as Messiah.
Constantine changed all the Feast days and took out anything that was Jewish. He made himself the head of the Church, but he was then and stayed a sun worshipper until he died, he was never born again and yet was able to change the whole face of Christianity to please the Devil while himself a pagan Babylonian sun worshipper.
The date of December 25th was the celebration of the birth of the Babylonian sun god. And it was in the 5th century that the Roman Catholic Church made this date December 25th the celebration of the birth of Christ. And the Sabbath (Saturday) of God was changed to the day of the sun god to Sunday.
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Anyone still bothered by the demons?
by wednesday inhi i'm wednesday and born and raised in jw.-inactive several years.
i have had a number of iincidents that appear to demonic've had spirit beings sit on my bed at ight and talk to me i've been literally touched by things unseen.
now i know the jw are big on demon stuff.
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nakedmvistar
valis,
The spirit world has it's own set of rules. Even shamans will tell you that there are good and malevolent beings in the nether world. God gives us descriptions of the different spirits (baddies or otherwise). God just tells us not to seek out these spirits. Hidden knowledge on how to summon these demons have always been around...that's why the bible tells us to stay away from SORCERY. why would a Oujaboard work for an INACTIVE witness and not you? Well satan has no interest in you valis.....He's pulled the ultimate con on you.....You don't even believe in a Creator much less an opposer. He likes you.
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Should I have a Christmas tree?
by scuba99 inhi folks,.
i'm rather new here, only posted a couple of times.
although i have been visiting the site daily for a good 2 months now.
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oh, oh.....well let see... Fourth of july: It is well known that most of the founding fathers were DEISTS. they weren't believers of Jesus Christ. Also, If you believe that satan is the god of this world, then you'll see that it was he who had a vested interest in the founding of this country. ALL of the founding fathers were Freemasons which is a luciferic org. America comes from the root americu which means :land of the serpent etc...thus, july fourth and independence is the celebration of a luciferic nation....
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Should I have a Christmas tree?
by scuba99 inhi folks,.
i'm rather new here, only posted a couple of times.
although i have been visiting the site daily for a good 2 months now.
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Well then I guess that's where we disagree. I feel that these celebrations offend God. I don't think that satan went through all that trouble to conceal them if it wasn't important. and to answer your question, no. I'm also a strict vegetarian and I avoid television. ...Weirdo, I am.