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  Looking for friends Chicago area

  by sableindian in

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  anybody know anyone from chicago, north chicago or waukegan (aka peyton place)?.

  also los angeles from the moriningside congregation?.

  qelilah.

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  sableindian

  Anybody know anyone from Chicago, North Chicago or Waukegan (aka Peyton Place)?

  Also Los Angeles from the Moriningside congregation?

  Qelilah
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  A question of race

  by teejay in

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  since i was a believer from the earliest of my memories, i spent my formative academic years not thinking or caring much about my future.

  although 1975 (armageddon / the end of the world / jehovah's judgment) was still a year away, as a naive, dumbass teenager it was looming very large on my radar screen.

  besides *that*, my best jw buddy got baptized in february of that year.

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  sableindian

  Teejay,

  Was the man who filed a grievance a minority? What State are you in?

  Wow, Be safe,

  Q
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  A question of race

  by teejay in

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  since i was a believer from the earliest of my memories, i spent my formative academic years not thinking or caring much about my future.

  although 1975 (armageddon / the end of the world / jehovah's judgment) was still a year away, as a naive, dumbass teenager it was looming very large on my radar screen.

  besides *that*, my best jw buddy got baptized in february of that year.

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  sableindian

  What do you mean, what kind of image does he project? Can you more specific?
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  Dinah, guilty or not guilty

  by sableindian in

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  in a publication called "my book of bible stories" is the story of dinah.

  it is implied that she is the start of the downfall of a nation and the corruption of her brothers.

  and that she went out to see girls she was not to go and see.. but who does the bible blame and what is the story here?

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  sableindian

  Hello Paduan,

  Notice that Shechem thought the brothers were his friends. That was his claim before his men. The deal was that they intermarry and take possession of part of the land and Shechem would marry Dinah but they had to get circumcised.

  "But Jacob's sons answered Shechem and his father Hamor with deceit, because he had defiled Dinah their sister."

  They deceived him.

  And, who was the family head anyway. Patience comes from Jacob's peers. These were not his peers. They were his sons. They were subversive in their dealings and they paid for it. Jacob told them and he remembered what they did in his old age. He did not just wipe what they did away with, "if only they had been a little more patient". And notice, they talked BACK to their father! Really now! These boys had a little more problem than impatience.
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  A question of race

  by teejay in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since i was a believer from the earliest of my memories, i spent my formative academic years not thinking or caring much about my future.

  although 1975 (armageddon / the end of the world / jehovah's judgment) was still a year away, as a naive, dumbass teenager it was looming very large on my radar screen.

  besides *that*, my best jw buddy got baptized in february of that year.

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  sableindian

  Target,

  ooooooo OOOOoooooooo, I get it now.

  (tip: try not to get to be 52)
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  Dinah, guilty or not guilty

  by sableindian in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in a publication called "my book of bible stories" is the story of dinah.

  it is implied that she is the start of the downfall of a nation and the corruption of her brothers.

  and that she went out to see girls she was not to go and see.. but who does the bible blame and what is the story here?

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  sableindian

  We have that word too. It is called statuatory (sp) rape. And his defiling her can also mean he did not go through the correct legal or traditional routine, which in this case caused Dinah (not Shechem) to be defiled. Anyway, it touched her all her life. She never married or had children.

  I also wonder how the other women viewed the Jewish males and they traveled through the desert. Killers of their fathers, brothers, husbands, uncles, etc. Children remembering. Wives craving. All in mourning. Did they have a mourning period?

  Will anyone comment also on Judah and HIS 'worldly' friend? Judah, the inheritor of the scepter.

  You know, actually, these peole are real and not superhuman. I, in fact, like them a lot
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  Dinah, guilty or not guilty

  by sableindian in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in a publication called "my book of bible stories" is the story of dinah.

  it is implied that she is the start of the downfall of a nation and the corruption of her brothers.

  and that she went out to see girls she was not to go and see.. but who does the bible blame and what is the story here?

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  sableindian

  Hi, Cruzanheart,

  Dinah is the last person mentioned of Jacob's family who entered into the Egyptian part of Africa during Joseph's tenure.

  Genesis 46:15 - (these are the sons of Leah, whom she bore to Jacob in Paddan-aram, together with his daughter Dinah; altogether his sons and his daughters numbered thirty-three).

  Yep, the very last person. But, we see she survived and it does not seem she married or had children.

  Probably when she just HEARD the word "husband" she said...."Husband?? Slowly I turned, step by step, inch by inch...."
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  Dinah, guilty or not guilty

  by sableindian in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in a publication called "my book of bible stories" is the story of dinah.

  it is implied that she is the start of the downfall of a nation and the corruption of her brothers.

  and that she went out to see girls she was not to go and see.. but who does the bible blame and what is the story here?

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  sableindian

  Hi, Country girl (what country?)

  I see Dinah as a bit of a tom boy. And how many young girls are just out playing or having fun. Minding their own business, no skimpy clothes, in fact, maybe a shepherd's outfit. A working outfit. And while going through her regular routine, she is looked at and wondered about in a sexual way. The first man I married I had no clue he liked me. He approached my parents and the ball began to roll. I was a tom boy and he was one of the guys in our group who did NOT go to VietNam. I was only 16. (I married at 17) And I was not thinking about anything feminine and definitely not yucky sex. (LOL) But this guy had been looking and thinking and plotting.

  Your daughters may not be very feminine. Very athletic. Like to have fun with her girlfriends. Think kissing is yucky. But there is some goof, sitting around looking at her as she plays baseball, jumps rope, walks to the store in her jeans and tee shirt.

  Do you really think it is the downfall of a woman when she dresses skimpy? Think...think

  You know what I think? I think Shechem realized who Dinah was AFTER the fact. And he knew he was in BIG trouble. With HIS family and with DIANAH's. Love....HAH Just another Canaanite man with words dripping with honey. LOL
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  Dinah, guilty or not guilty

  by sableindian in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in a publication called "my book of bible stories" is the story of dinah.

  it is implied that she is the start of the downfall of a nation and the corruption of her brothers.

  and that she went out to see girls she was not to go and see.. but who does the bible blame and what is the story here?

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  sableindian

  Hi waiting,

  I read your previous post about Dinah and the Red Tent. Heading for the library as we speak. I love historical novels. My favorite is Pillars of the Earth about the intrigue in the Catholic church and the royal family of England and France during the 11 or12th century. By Ken Follet.

  Anyway, back to Dinah. I had a large talk with my kids and editted quite a few of the publictions I was given so that they would be truthful. But I talked hard and long with my sons more than to my daughters about Dinah. I did not want them to think that ANYTHING a young girl did would warrant them the liberty to do anything also.

  As, I mentioned to another member, I wrote to Jehovah's Witnesses about Dinah. I think they told my husband to get 'control' of his family (meaning his wife) and poor worldly dear...she just doesn't know because she is ...worldly.

  Keep in touch,

  Qelilah
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  J.R. Brown and oatmeal

  by Patriot in

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  what a lying bastard!.

  anyways, my bro-in-law told me about how he had to sit at browns' table for 2 weeks.. one morning, one particular brother took himself a big serving of oatmeal while jr brown watched.

  after the brother finished serving himself, brown said: .

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  sableindian

  Blacks have higher cholesteral(sp)? Really? No wonder people keep bugging me about my ethniticity. low blood pressure, low cholesterol, oy veh, I guess I'm just a low Black while J. R. Brown is a high one.

  I remember J R Brown from back in the 70s. He was a powerful speaker. What's he doing in NY???

  He is very egomaniacal. I bet he's a Leo!