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  Do/did you have a nickname?

  by greendawn in

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  2. relationships

  i had one at school and fortunately it wasn't derogatory as they called me "the brainbox" because i was good at lessons.

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  They called me weebles in school because I tried to use crutches and fell down alot.

  Been called "Spke" for the last 25 years...no idea where it came from.
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  Personal Relationship?

  by Carmel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't mean to be trite or argumentative, but i keep hearing all the time about having a "personal relationship with jesus" as the solution to leaving the witlesses.

  for the life of me, i really don't know what this term means.

  i can only compare it to its literal counterpart, i.e.

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  How does one do that with an historical figure that is only sparsely referred to in an ancient book written by a variety of individuals, some of which never even met Him. (Paul of course comes to mind)

  Faith, belief, emotion.....for those who "believe" it isn't such a stretch. For those without that belief/faith, I could never explain it.

  I would also not try to press my beliefs on them or belittle them simply because I did not understand or agree..
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  You will know them by their_________?

  by The Dragon in

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  2. beliefs

  "fruits"?

  why didn't he just say results or actions?

  why call a persons actions "fruits"?

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  um....colorful metephor maybe....just a guess but more likely than some plot or coded meaning.
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  To Benefit the Lurkers and Newbies - tell your story again!!

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a nice grouping of stories regarding our time in and exit from the borg would aid all the newcomers here.. how about a paragraph or two [the condensed versions] of how we all found ourselves here today?.

  jeff .

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  Bio/Story is on my profile....
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  On ebay

  by dobbie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  was just browsing on ebay out of sheer boredom and typed in 'jehovahs witnesses' .one of the things i spotted was a no blood keyring for children, asking for their parents to be contacted, apparently from an ebay shop a pioneer couple run.

  this made me feel really sick, fair enough to carry one if your'e an adult, but children?

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  interesting eby seller

  www.watchtowermemorabilia.com

  http://www.watchtowermemorabilia.com

  lists many items on CD / DVD....out of print stuff.....hmmmmmmm
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  The argument--whether or not the Devil exists

  by The wanderer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  <!-- .style1 {font-family: arial, sans-serif} .style2 { font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, sans-serif, cursive; } .style3 {color: #f03a25} --> the argumentwhether or not the devil exists mainstream religions all over the world and not so mainstream.

  religions teach of a devil.

  the devil is considered to be the.

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  Stays at my house every 28 days....trust me..the devil exists.
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  The Best One-liners for Witnesses

  by gordon d in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what have been the most effective reasons that you've given to the people that you love for why you're no longer a witness?

  considering that most dubs have the attention span of a 2 year old for anything from an a-prostate, please be consise and succint with your answers.

  just trying to plant some seeds of reasoning.... maybe in-depth discussions with those folks will come at a later time.

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  I left because my health insurance didn't cover lobotomies.
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  What was the reason why you were never made an elder or Ministerial Servant

  by twinkletoes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the reason i heard constantly by the elders, as to ones spiritual progress in the organisation was, .

  "brothers are appointed by holy spirit.".

  if this is the case, why is god speaking to himself when he says in 1 tim 3 v 6 .not a newly converted man, for fear that he might get puffed up with prideetc.. to re-iterate if god appoints elders, why would he give himself this advice ???.

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  I was "being groomed" for MS. Luckily I escaped before that could happen.
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  going for a colonoscopy(sp) on friday

  by orbison11 in

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  2. medical

  yes, but i hear thursday will be the bad day, when i do the meds and have to sit 3 feet from the toilet for 24 hours,,oyy vay.

  any here been thru this wonderful experience?.

  orb.

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  I brought flowers and a botte of wine for the Doc. Told him that I had broken the ice, so it would be nice if there was a little foreplay first.

  Nurse thought it was funny.....Doc did not. LOL

  RandyW
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  lil ol' me

  by gay pride in

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  2. friends

  hi my name is crystal...i am 20 and was disfellowshipped two years ago.

  that was the hardest thing i have ever been thru in my life yet.. i was disfellowshipped for falling in love with and having relations with another female.

  tried to fight it for a long time... but shit happens.

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  I'm on the shunning plan too....tearful goodbyes.....parents said "if we listen to your research (anti jw) and leave now.....we'll lose everything". I guess its okay to lose their only child and now their daughter in-law and 2 grandchildren too.

  I was shunned for 4 or 5 years, then "new light" and it was okay until 2001 when the "old light" came back and I was shunned again. First time....I felt bad.....second time just pissed me off.

  Sorry for yu experiece and pain but you are not alone and are among friends here. (((crystal)))

  RandyW