Toddy,
Lateral thinkers! Sheesh!
Dansk
Toddy,
Lateral thinkers! Sheesh!
Dansk
"You may now live forever, or return to this earth, unless you feel good where you are".
Well, it could mean John has the choice to live forever in some spiritual realm, or come back to the earth (reincarnation/rebirth?) whereupon he'll die again. If he's feeling good where he is, well, he might as well stay there. But does he really have a choice?
Dansk
we all had personal reasons for becoming jws and we have all left for just as many different reasons.. but i'm really interested in what types of freedom people have found and are enjoying since fleeing from the wts cult.. for me the greatest sense of freedom has been in the way i live my life with my family.
now we are able to 'be free' (in reality we were always free, we just didn't know it because we empowered men and they controlled us) with our time and energy.
we associate with a variety of different people, we sleep in, we garden, we just do nothing, we read books that have nothing to do with the wts, we relax on tues. and thurs.
Being able to think for myself!
Hey, Dede,
That's how my heart sometimes feels since the Borg kidnapped my girls - completely empty!
Dansk
today's a bad day for me.
usually i'm the pillar of strength to mrs ozzie who sheds a tear for her kidnapped children each day.
it's been more than a year since the borg sent a henchman with a word from bethel to tell us they'd "got our kids".
Hi Ozzie,
Since their kidnapping, there's been a deafening silence, and it hurts.
Had their parents done anything 'wrong'? No, except that they chose to simply not associoate any more and after much Bible study and soul searching started attending a church.
Actually, I'm glad you posted about your feelings, because I still can't shake mine off, either! Of course, mine and that of my missus has been only three months. We haven't even attended a church - don't wish to - and we know it is sheer emotional blackmail. It doesn't help when people post that "it could take years" before one's family come round to the errors of the Watchtower. YEARS!! <*"%!**&! hell (that's another thing, I never used to swear until this happened!).
I wake up every morning thinking of my two girls. I go to bed thinking the same thing. Last week an exJW whose wife still attends meetings told me that my older daughter's husband was appointed a ministerial servant. That means it's likely we won't hear from her for even longer. Her husband is obviously going to be "worthy" of his appointment and keep us at a good distance. I now dislike the guy immensely - and yet I know it's not his fault. It's just that one continually hopes that he would have the balls to ask why two previously dedicated JWs could, along with their two equally dedicated sons, just throw it all away!
Like you, Ozzie, I'm in pain. I was about to say your situation is worse - but ALL such situations defy belief! I've never hated anything so much in all my life! It's made me angry, bitter, resentful, fed up and vengeful. I told my wife the other day that the planes that hit the twin towers should have hit Watchtower at Brooklyn! Obviously, I don't mean it - and I wouldn't want innocents to die - but the situation makes one hate everything about Watchtower.
When I think clearly I can be eloquent. When I don't think clearly I think the biggest crap going!! I know YOU and others like us can TRULY appreciate what I'm saying. I was told that it takes at least six months before one truly chills out from the indoctrination. The painful memories, I was informed, are still there but one can handle them better. I guess you're having a bad day and I'm TRULY sorry, mate!
I've got a lump in my throat so I'd best end this!
Love,
Dansk
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how does bob marley like his doughnuts?.
.. .. "wi jammin"
Ed Zachary Syndrome A woman was very distraught at the fact that she had not had a date or any sex in quite some time. She was afraid she might have something wrong with her, so she decided to seek the medical expertise of a sex therapist. Her doctor recommended that she see the well-known Chinese sex therapist, Dr. Chang, so she went to see him. Upon entering the examination room, Dr. Chang said, "OK, take off all your crose." The woman did as she was told. "Now, get down on aw fos and craw reery, reery fass to odderside of room." Again, the woman did as she was instructed. Dr. Chang then said, "OK, now craw reery, reery fass back to me." So she did. Dr. Chang shook his head slowly and said, "Your probrem vewy bad. You haf Ed Zachary Syndrome. Worse case I ever see. Dat why you not haf sex or dates." Worried, the woman asked anxiously, "Oh my God, Dr. Chang, what is Ed Zachary Syndrome?" Dr. Chang sighed deeply, and replied: "Ed Zachary Syndrome is when your face look Ed Zachary like your ass."
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as i'm having some serious differences with some friends about the born again attitude i would like to get some information on their origins, practices and what they actually believe help me somone please .
ymrah
LT
However you quote me out of context. I was refering to spiritual experience.
So was I!
Dansk
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as i'm having some serious differences with some friends about the born again attitude i would like to get some information on their origins, practices and what they actually believe help me somone please .
ymrah
Hi Toe (did you get my off-list e-mail? If so, you haven't answered it you arrogant ass )
I would just suggest to you that there are laws at work, in the lives of people on this planet, that need an explanation.
YO!, Now THAT'S something I totally agree with you on!
Perhaps you'd be kind enough to let me have your opinion on this matter, viz mankind is said to be made in God's image. OK, so if I see someone attacking you in the street I'm going to want to join in and help you! Now, one could say I would be acting in such a manner because God's loving kindness is inside of me; that it's in everyone, really, because we are made in his image.
If this is true, then why did God look down as 6,000,000 Jews were exterminated - including little children holding their mother's hands as they went to the gas chamber? Believe me, this is a question I've wrestled with for decades, even as a Dub. You see, if it's in MY image to want to help the innocent, then why didn't God, who's loving kindess is FAR GREATER than mine, step in and immediately stop the death of such innocents? I am seriously perplexed over such matters as this.
Dansk
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as i'm having some serious differences with some friends about the born again attitude i would like to get some information on their origins, practices and what they actually believe help me somone please .
ymrah
Little Toe,
You earlier quoted Milton:
"The mind is its own place, and of itself
Can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven".
He also wrote: "The greatest burden in the world is superstition."
In all sincerity I have read and heard nothing from BAs, both here and off-list, that the above quote couldn't be applied to.
Dansk
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okay, we had the "who's the most gorgeous woman in the world" post, so what about the male species??
hmmmmmm.......without a doubt, i'd have to vote for elvis when he was young...........man he was good looking!!
Valis,
YOU took that picture of Andi and Hubby? I'm very impressed. Great picture, Andi!!
Dansk