It appears to me this, "read between the lines" is a safety valve this witness uses to deal with the inconsistencies within the Society.
Their "wait on Jehovah" mantra is another safety valve used to deal with theose same inconsistencies.
yesterday, my wife and i got together with my brother and his wife for dinner.
they began talking about how they never thought they'd still be here in this system of things.they complained that the elders were often jerks and unfair.
they talked about how they hoped their disfellowshipped daughter would soon get reinstated.
It appears to me this, "read between the lines" is a safety valve this witness uses to deal with the inconsistencies within the Society.
Their "wait on Jehovah" mantra is another safety valve used to deal with theose same inconsistencies.
this past weekend we had our circuit assembly.
you guessed it, same ol' same ol.
' on saturday, the overall theme was based on materialism.
Great report...
But boy, how you can stand to sit there and listen to all that dribble for the 587956543276543546576th time is beyond conprehension. I couldn't stand to sit there listening to that nonsense for 2 hours.....much less 2 days..
It never occurred to me that there were always deficits following the Sunday meetings. Is there really some type of formula where deficits are always built in by the Elders to elicit more money.
yesterday, my wife and i got together with my brother and his wife for dinner.
they began talking about how they never thought they'd still be here in this system of things.they complained that the elders were often jerks and unfair.
they talked about how they hoped their disfellowshipped daughter would soon get reinstated.
Then I asked if they thought that this was the way Jehovah wants us to feel, burdened and stressed. My brother said, "Well, we do have to read between the lines, don't you think?"
Interesting that he would think that the R\F should be encouraged to "read between the lines" when they feel burdened or stressed by WT rules and regulations since "reading between the lines" is the same accusation thrown out by JW's when confronted by an ex or non jw about their 1975 fiasco.
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active jw's that are catching on to the geisers back on the farm?.
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Keep changing who monitors us, and keep each individual in place for a very short period of time. And use very loyal brothers.
That's the only way they can posssibly keep up with what goes on around here. They'd have to rotate those "very loyal brothers" out every other week or so though. I doubt that it any "vlb" hung around any longer than that that he'd most lilely be questioning the Soceity also, and they can't have that.
their "achilles heel" in keeping up with what's gong on in the apostate community this way though is that they have no continuity. There's also the personality "creep" of the different brothers in how they perceive things around here when they make their report.
ok, whomever you are.
i must assume that i know you personaly.
i have my ideas who it is simply because i dont know very many people who are competent on the computer enough to find this site and are jw themselves.. .
my position is real simply, if they want me-- they got to come and get "My Black A$$"
That's exactly the way I feel.....and I wont make it easy for them either. Whenever that happens I intend to use it as a sound board to all my JW relatives to demonstrate just how much control they've relinquished to moe, larry and curly.
just noticed this in the "pay attention book".
it's about what sort of evidence a jc can accept:.
there must be two or three eyewitnesses, not just persons .
Boy this is gonna be good.........
Please keep us informed....
the quote below was on another thread but i was afraid it would get lost.. "as a side note - if anyone can help me and tell me how to broach the subject of my drifting away to my youngest son, i would be so grateful.. what do i tell him?
he asks why i don't go to meetings any more.
he is so concerned and thinks i am in danger of dying at armageddon.
I like LB's idea about asking questions. Many questions are quite legitimate for JWs to consider and the questions themselves do not put the Society in a "negative light"?
That's only if the answers to those legitimate questions are also such that they don't put the Soceity in a negative light. It's been my experience that any question that would cause most hardcore JWs to question the Soceity to the slightest degree results in a very hostile reaction. I've found that most JW are simply unwilling to admit that the Soceity could possibly be wrong about anything.
comments you will not hear at the 3-16-03 wt study
february 1, 2003.
"have love among yourselves".
My husband told me that I must read today's article because it was written especially to help people like me - the lost and spiritually weak.
My wife came home glowing about this particular article also. She was ripped and raring to go about talking to me about it and how it made her so good and about how "timely" it was that Jehovah had brought out that article. She didn't use the loaded language though by referring to me as spiritually lost or weak. She knows that I don't recognize WT labels.
well i had a very interesting conversation on friday night.
sorry to be so long letting you know what happened.. only one elder turned up and i was wrong in my original thought that my mum had given him my report, it seems he was coming to ask me to study, therefore he was totally unprepared for what was about to happen to him.
but, i have to say, that he was the most honest elder i have spoke to and i'm sure you will be surprised by some of the things he said.. he started off wanting to know what made me stop going to the meetings and i related to him my experiences of a certain body of elders that had, to say the least, made me realise that they thought that they were a law unto themselves (including stealing, lying and generally being un-christian).
Been looking forward to reading your update Search. You seem to have given this guy a lot to think about.
Great Job!!!!
last year on may 18th i officially stopped attending jw meetings, i first told my wife and then i wrote a brief letter stating that i was resigning as a ms. over that time period i've had some doubts about whether or not i was doing the right thing, but basically i feel that i've made the correct decision.
unfortunately i can't say that i've become more spiritual during these past few months, however i do feel more and more strongly that there are many things in the bible that may be erroneous.
i'm not at the point of being an atheist, but i do feel that i'm ignorant of god's purpose for humans.
Leander
I, until the board changed, usually posted as out4good3 and I was following your story with great interest. It's great to know that you weren't emotionally sucked back into the mindless groupthink that is borg theology. Hopefully your wife isn't giving you too much trouble over your decision and you're still managing to hold it together.
I had my visit just after the new year. A couple of elders knocked on the door and I answered and told them to go away and that I had nothing to discuss with them. My wife went to the door and talked to them for awhile and since then I've heard nothing from them, although she was not pleased with the way I treated them. She's on notice though that when I want to talk to them, I'll let them know, and if they happen to just stop by and I'm willing to talk that I'll be setting the agenda and not be bulldozed by whatever their agenda is.
Recently, she sat down and tried talking to me about how she wished she could be more regular going to the meetings since that is what she's "supposed" to be doing and that she needed help. I right away recognized the emotional guilt trip she was trying to lay down and said nothing to move the conversation any further. I neither encourage or discourage her from going and I make plans for activities for us irrespective of when meeeting times are. If she chooses to go with me....fine. If she chooses to go to the meetings, then I tell her that I'll see her when I get back. No longer do I put my life on hold in anticipation of the next WT scheduled activity.