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  who will survive...

  by just2sheep in

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  how about that my first topic generation and my first oops a you think will be saved at armegeddon?

  on the other thread diamondblue1974 asked "why must all non jws be destroyed?

  surely jws are not the only good god fearing people on earth?

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  Carla,

  It's plain that you don't know sh!t about the Bible, nor the reasons for which JWs won't salute any flag or involve themselves in politics. But, like hellrider, you like to jabber a lot to don't you.

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  who will survive...

  by just2sheep in

  1. watchtower
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  how about that my first topic generation and my first oops a you think will be saved at armegeddon?

  on the other thread diamondblue1974 asked "why must all non jws be destroyed?

  surely jws are not the only good god fearing people on earth?

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  The fact is that JWs are receiving training RIGHT NOW that will be of help when they face that very "test". People who won't solute the flag of any nation on earth today, will stand a far better chance of not supporting the 8th King when put under compulsion to do so.

  ...and if I said that your kind of ...peculiar...Biblical interpretations looks to still be a bit influenced by all those years of JW-indoctrination, then you would not agree with that, I assume?

  Hellrider

  You like to jabber a lot, don't ya.

  Schizm

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  who will survive...

  by just2sheep in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how about that my first topic generation and my first oops a you think will be saved at armegeddon?

  on the other thread diamondblue1974 asked "why must all non jws be destroyed?

  surely jws are not the only good god fearing people on earth?

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  Sounds like Schizm wants to put his own spin on things here. There are plenty of wt's that state ONLY jw's will survive the big A (which have been posted many times and available at many different sites), or at least their version of how it will go down. Why are jw's so unfamiliar with their own literature? -- carla.

  I probably know more about WTS literature than you ever did or ever will.

  Your real problem seems to be that you're hung up on what the Watchtower says. You need to start being more concerned with what the Bible itself says. The Bible says exactly as I described it up above, and if it conflicts with what the Watchtower says then that's just the way it is. The fact is that JWs are receiving training RIGHT NOW that will be of help when they face that very "test". People who won't solute the flag of any nation on earth today, will stand a far better chance of not supporting the 8th King when put under compulsion to do so. Want to argue about that?

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  who will survive...

  by just2sheep in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how about that my first topic generation and my first oops a you think will be saved at armegeddon?

  on the other thread diamondblue1974 asked "why must all non jws be destroyed?

  surely jws are not the only good god fearing people on earth?

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  So, it will be the above mentioned "test" and that alone that will determine who lives and who dies.

  Schizm

  And the "test" I assume, will be whether or not one is a baptised JW "in good standing"...isn`t that right, Schizm?

  I implied no such thing. You need to re-read my comment.

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  who will survive...

  by just2sheep in

  1. watchtower
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  how about that my first topic generation and my first oops a you think will be saved at armegeddon?

  on the other thread diamondblue1974 asked "why must all non jws be destroyed?

  surely jws are not the only good god fearing people on earth?

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  who do you think will be saved at armegeddon?

  There's going to be a difficult "test" which the entire human race will undergo that will determine who will survive Armageddon. The Bible says that after the 8th King arrives, every adult in the world will face the "test" of being put under compulsion to accept the "mark" (meaning the person accepts the 8th King as being supreme sovereign; or having more authority than God himself). Only those who refuse to support the 8th King (one-world government) will survive Armageggon. All others will have accepted the symbolic "mark" (the number "666" or the name "Babylon the Great"). The choice will be ours to make, not God's. If we accept the mark, we will have condemned ourselves to death at Armageddon.

  So, it will be the above mentioned "test" and that alone that will determine who lives and who dies.

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  The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

  by Schizm in

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  as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

  18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

  of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

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  On the beast with the seven heads and the ten horns sits the great whore of Babylon, richly dressed, the trifold papal tiara on her head.

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  The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

  by Schizm in

  1. watchtower
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  as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

  18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

  of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

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  Lol at Kid-A.

  I wish this thread was printed on toilet paper......

  Just another twirp ------->
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  The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

  by Schizm in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

  18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

  of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

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  The "number" --->

  The "name" ---> Babylon the Great

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  1. But why is the 8th King's number 666? What is the significance of the number 6? And why is it repeated three times? Why is the number said to be a man's number? Is there a connection between it having a man's number in Revelation while in Daniel it has the eyes of a man? (Da 7:8)
  
  
  2. And for what reason is the 8th King named Babylon the Great? Is it because it's a greater Babylon in some sense? If so, then it couldn't refer to the city of ancient Babylon, because that's what the harlot herself represents. Then how about the tower of Babylon? Isn't that about all that's left to choose from? If that's it, then how would the coming one-world government (8th King) compare to the ancient tower of Babylon? What do the two of them have in common?
  
  
  3. The harlot is called Babylon the great city? What could this possibly mean other than she somehow compares to the ancient city of Babylon? And would it be the Babylon of Nebuchadnezzar's day that she represents? Or, the original Babylon as described in the eleventh chapter of Genesis?

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  The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

  by Schizm in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

  18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

  of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

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  The 8th King (Babylon the Great) in the Revelation account is depicted as being a scarlet colored wild beast, having 7 heads and 10 horns. Interestingly, this very same King is depicted in Daniel 7 as being a new horn that comes up amid the original 10 horns that sprang up after Rome fell from power. Below, is how Daniel depicts "Babylon the Great" once having made the world scene. The great majority (7 of the 10) of governments will favor the idea of there being a one-world government. The remainder (3) will be forced to comply with the wishes of the majority. Hence, the reason for 3 horns being toppled.

  

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  The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

  by Schizm in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

  18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

  of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

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  . Below is an excerpt from a sermon which Jerry Falwell gave to his congregation as recent as this last June. The man is obviously sincere in his beliefs, but wrong just the same. He seems to have "a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge." (Romans 10:2) As seen by his comments below, he still believes that God would actually torture a person in a horribly "hot" place forever and ever. He also teaches that "heaven" is the sole destiny for faithful Christians; thereby ruling out the possibility of anyone inheriting life on this "third rock from the sun" (our earth). The man (a college graduate) needs to get an education! Will people like Falwell refuse to accept the "mark" when that time of "test" arrives? By that point in time "Christendom" will have committed the error of supporting the 8th King (which is the reason she becomes the "harlot" of Revelation 17). Will Falwell be one who heeds the urgent call to "get out of her my people"? Or, will he continue to stay inside a religious institution that will have demoted God to the position of 2nd-place with regards to sovereignty? The "harlot" has the "mark" of the beast on her forehead. Yes, what will religious leaders like Jerry Falwell do then? Actually, what they are doing today (teaching religious errors) isn't near as important as what they will do then. If they also wind up with the "mark" on their foreheads, then they will die at Armageddon (though not a permanent death). Here's the "excerpt" I referred to:

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  Heaven - A Real Place For Real People (June 26, 2005) Revelation 21:1-27

  Our subject today is Heaven… but a careful study of the Bible reveals that there are two places prepared for the immortal souls of men.

  Jesus makes it clear that heaven and hell are real places for real people. We don't hear much preaching about hell these days. It is not a very popular topic. Some preachers avoid it altogether. But Jesus spoke very clearly and specifically about hell. He warns us about the horrible realities of hell and urges us to escape the judgment of hell by believing in Him. Hell is real. Hell is hot. Hell is forever. But hell can be avoided because Jesus took the punishment of hell for us when He died on the cross. Because of Him we can have a home in heaven forever. Now, let us look back into our text as we visit Heaven.
  
  HOW BEAUTIFUL HEAVEN WILL BE
  In Revelation, chapters 21 and 22, the Bible paints a wonderful and beautiful picture of heaven. In these chapters we are introduced to the glory and splendor of heaven. All the judgments are now concluded. God will wipe away all tears from our eyes, and there will be no more sorrow nor death. ...................... What is clear is that John is describing a real place where the saved, and only the saved, will dwell with God forever. The unsaved are excluded from this city totally and completely. Satan and those he has deceived are all in the lake of fire, from which there is no escape. -- Jerry Falwell.

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