Posts by Schizm

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Oh, Schizm! (Daniel 11:35)

by AuldSoul in

schizm: here's something for you to consider, which you will no doubt disagree with, but that shows that the wts will refine its thinking on these issues:

and some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

-- daniel 11:35 .

Schizm

As I said to you once before, you chose the perfect screen-name for yourself Kid.

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Oh, Schizm! (Daniel 11:35)

by AuldSoul in

schizm: here's something for you to consider, which you will no doubt disagree with, but that shows that the wts will refine its thinking on these issues:

and some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

-- daniel 11:35 .

Schizm

Is it always this hard to get a Jehovah's Witness to back up their arguments with evidence?

So skeptic2 is an atheist. I figured as much!

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Oh, Schizm! (Daniel 11:35)

by AuldSoul in

schizm: here's something for you to consider, which you will no doubt disagree with, but that shows that the wts will refine its thinking on these issues:

and some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

-- daniel 11:35 .

Schizm

Just a question for Schizm:
Obviously the verse has to apply to some religion that claims to be "Christian". So which "Christian" religion would it be? First off, it couldn't refer to what is commonly referred to as "Christendom", a religion that's split up into a multitude of denominations. Denominations do not equal UNITY. Surely the group that Daniel 11:35 applies to would be UNIFIED, rather than split apart into various denominations as Christendom's churches are.
Wouldn`t a whole bunch of sects, who base their beliefs on the Bible, be able to say the exact same thing? For example, the mormons would object to being counted as a part of the rest of "christendom". So would many other sects. In fact, they would all claim this exclusivity (that you attribute to the WTS) to themselves, and count you (and the jws) as part of "christendom". The mormons are unified, just as the jws. So are many of the other sects. Please answer this, and AuldSouls questions.

The Mormon's don't base their beliefs solely on the Bible. They place their faith in a stupid book called the "Book of Mormon". That pretty much rules them out as being able to claim relevance to the Daniel 11:35 text.

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Oh, Schizm! (Daniel 11:35)

by AuldSoul in

schizm: here's something for you to consider, which you will no doubt disagree with, but that shows that the wts will refine its thinking on these issues:

and some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

-- daniel 11:35 .

Schizm

So... you can't answer AuldSoul's points then?

Stop with the nipping and go back to sleep. You obviously need your rest, not to mention a knowledge of the Scriptures. Why didn't you answer me when I asked if you subscribed to atheism?

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Oh, Schizm! (Daniel 11:35)

by AuldSoul in

schizm: here's something for you to consider, which you will no doubt disagree with, but that shows that the wts will refine its thinking on these issues:

and some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

-- daniel 11:35 .

Schizm

Jehovah's Witnesses ... are part of Christendom themselves.

You're sadly mistaken. JWs stand out as being distinctly different than any of Christendom's churches.

Now instead of attacking me personally, why not try to answer AuldSouls points if you can.

Is it my fault that you haven't any "insight" regarding the things being said? If you did, you wouldn't be making such a silly request.

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Oh, Schizm! (Daniel 11:35)

by AuldSoul in

schizm: here's something for you to consider, which you will no doubt disagree with, but that shows that the wts will refine its thinking on these issues:

and some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

-- daniel 11:35 .

Schizm

Schizm what you are saying is completely and hilariously irrelevant.
My assertion stands: you continue to confirm your inability to answer AuldSoul's points.

You obviously have no experience whatsoever with the subject at hand, yet you're here to tell me you understand what is being said? You must love making a fool of yourself. You may find it fun to run your little fingers across a keyboard, but you need to remember that the words you make appear on your screen is what everyone else can see. I can assure you that mature people consider you as being silly, because you're quick to pass judgement on things when you have no way of understanding the material being discussed. Your comments have no substance to them. Why not try being something other than a cheerleader for the side you've chosen to be on?

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Oh, Schizm! (Daniel 11:35)

by AuldSoul in

schizm: here's something for you to consider, which you will no doubt disagree with, but that shows that the wts will refine its thinking on these issues:

and some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

-- daniel 11:35 .

Schizm

Lol, you are confirming your inability to answer AuldSoul's points.

Are you going to make a fool of yourself this early in the game. It appears so. I read in one of your previous posts where you say that you've never been a JW, which tells me that you haven't the foggiest idea what the Bible is truly all about. I'd politely suggest that you sit quietly and pay close attention to those who have "been there and done that", rather than being so anxious to nip at their heals. Get my drift? Who knows but what you might actually learn something. Too, I find it sad that you have no appreciation for the Bible. Do you subscribe to atheism?

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Oh, Schizm! (Daniel 11:35)

by AuldSoul in

schizm: here's something for you to consider, which you will no doubt disagree with, but that shows that the wts will refine its thinking on these issues:

and some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

-- daniel 11:35 .

Schizm

Clarification: I know you tried to answer one of the points, but you didnt offer any evidence to back up your assertions.

There's much in the Scriptures that require discernment to understand their meaning. You too might try your hand at developing such an ability. First of all though a person must have a healthy respect for the Bible being "God's Word". Do YOU qualify in that regard?

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Oh, Schizm! (Daniel 11:35)

by AuldSoul in

schizm: here's something for you to consider, which you will no doubt disagree with, but that shows that the wts will refine its thinking on these issues:

and some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

-- daniel 11:35 .

Schizm

Up above I said with regards to you:

Maybe there's hope for you after all?

I now retract that statement. I laid it out plain and simple for you, but you're incapable of putting two and two together. And why is that? It's obvious that you chose to not hear.

I don't see anything about a religion here. Nor an organization of any kind.

Of course YOU don't. However, for lurkers that may be reading this thread that you initiated I'll offer the reminder that the text of Daniel 11:35 is applicable to Christians who are united as a body, rather than divided such as is Christendom. Also, the text is applicable during a period just prior to the beginning of the "time of the end". And, furthermore, it seems that there's a subtle purpose for the verse concluding with the words "because it [the time of the end] is YET for the time appointed". Better than any other religion those words would well fit the WTS because of its long-heralded mistaken belief that the time of the end has been in progress ever since the year 1914. Of course YOU can't discern it, but I certainly can perceive that THIS error in particular is the chief thing that those certain ones mentioned in the text stumble over, and as a result of their actions a needed refinement is acheived.

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Oh, Schizm! (Daniel 11:35)

by AuldSoul in

schizm: here's something for you to consider, which you will no doubt disagree with, but that shows that the wts will refine its thinking on these issues:

and some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

-- daniel 11:35 .

Schizm

I don't disagree with your assessment of what the Scripture means, only with the group to which you choose to apply it.

I'm actually astounded that you don't disagree, altogether. Maybe there's hope for you after all?

Obviously the verse has to apply to some religion that claims to be "Christian". So which "Christian" religion would it be? First off, it couldn't refer to what is commonly referred to as "Christendom", a religion that's split up into a multitude of denominations. Denominations do not equal UNITY. Surely the group that Daniel 11:35 applies to would be UNIFIED, rather than split apart into various denominations as Christendom's churches are.

There is nothing in the entire Bible about this obscure, tiny little religion that would pop up in the late 1800s.

Again, I say, the verse has to apply to some religion that claims to be "Christian". Since the text doesn't name the specific group being referred to then the reader is left to use his/her powers of discernment to make the proper application.

Your understanding of the meaning of Daniel 11:35 could apply equally well to any religion that claims to adhere to the Bible, including Judaism.

Don't you mean "our" understanding? You did say that you agreed with my "assessment of what the scripture means", didn't you? Have you already changed your mind? Or is pure arrogance influencing the way you structured your sentence?

At any rate, you're quite wrong about the text applying equally well to just any old religion that professes belief in the Bible. And it's simply impossible for it to apply to Judaism, because the group it applies to has to profess belief in Jesus as being the messiah. That rules out Judaism.

If you disagree with that statement, please try to clearly explain why you disagree.

See above.

Also, avoid personal insults if you can. Otherwise I will report your posts to an administrator.

It will be awfully hard to do, considering who my opponent is in this thread. However, if you don't open the door then you won't have anything to tattle about. It's up to YOU. You have a history of being antagonistic. So play nice, or the boogie man will definitely get you.

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