Posts by pronomono

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Will the 2014 Memorial partaking YOUR last?

by prologos in

possibly yes.

many wt doctrine dissenters have privately taken the bread&wine on that night for years.

one reason is that the new covenant is not for heaven, but for forgiveness of sin, and jesus served the emblems to those with an earthly hope.

i finally had "the truth" talk with the hubby

by monis in

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i have been inactive for a couple of years.

he has too, but wants to go back.

he has never researched anything about jws.

pronomono

Billy, My thoughts exactly. I had the exact same thought seconds before reading this thread. It was like deja vu.

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Have You Ever Met...Or KNOW...a GB Member?

by Cold Steel in

if so, what is your experience?

i've seen only a few talks by gb members and would like to hear what they're like.

are they personable, aloof, humble, arrogant?

I haven't personally met one, but Stephen Lett joined us this past weekend at a couple of assemblies in lower Alabama. He wasn't anything special, just a regular brother like all the rest of the speakers. No extra holy spirit. It made my blood boil when he started talking about apostates and said "Did you know a member of the GB turned apostate?" Shame on him for speaking of Ray like that.

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I met a lovely x JW sister this morning

by KateWild in

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on my way to work, i saw my neighbour from the next street sitting at the bus stop as usual.

i always offer her a lift and say hello and try to "encourage" her.. the family was in our book study, the kids know i love them to bits.. well did the flood gates open or what, she has got old mags she wants show me, internet websites.

if she is on here she hasn't worked it out yet.

pronomono

I'm happy for you Kate. You deserve a good friend.

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JW. Org logon to email them

by sherrie11 in

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it doesn't allow anyone to register.

are they to scared of the feedback from those who know ' the truth about the truth'.

it seems to me they should not even have a contact us function (especially if your main form of contact is email, which is the norm for 2013) who designed this thing................. are the elders and the privileged jw's sent their logon details... i would love to know the secret squirrel shite.

pronomono

Ditto what piztjw said.

When you register, you start with just the CC donations, but you have a special code listed at the bottom of your profile page. The code allows your congregation secretary to associate your profile with the local congregation and assign you roles within the congregation. The secretary can download all the letters that the society sends to each congregation, since these are no longer mailed. Forms for congregation business can be downloaded. The accounts servant can submit donations. Congregation FS statistics can be submitted. I'm sure there's lots more, but that's all I've seen.

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Interview with Ray Franz, Peter Gregson and others from 1986

by KateWild in

look what i found, an old interview from jeremiah productions.

it features many interviews including, ray franz and peter gregson.

it's a good promotion for coc if you haven't read it yet and a recap if you have.

pronomono

Great find Kate.

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According to WT, has Mt 24:14 been fulfilled?

by Splash in

no - w55 10/15 p. 621 par.

7 p. 61 par.

yes - w92 5/1 p. 22 par.

pronomono

AbleBodiedMan, the mormons are running a close second. They are published in 177 languages, but beat us with 15,000,000 members, roughly. With their rate of growth, they'll have double our membership with only a few decades head start. It would seem that Jehovah is blessing them more in many respects if growth and works are the deciding factors.

The LDS have been amassing land - now owning multiple colleges, sanctuaries, and 2% of the state of Florida. They have more community enhancement projects. Their members even follow some crazy doctrines like us. Don't discount the Mormons.

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Society stating they have no special Holy Spirit

by cognac in

i remember them stating something to that affect.

does anybody know where this was said?.

pronomono

Blondie, can I say that you are the greatest?

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The Right Religion Demonstrates True Faith In Jesus Christ

by pronomono in

the week of december 9th, i have the talk "the right religion demonstrates true faith in jesus christ" base on the reasoning book rs p329.

the following is the suggested material.. istruefaithinjesuschristbeingdemonstrated?

this involves appreciation of the value of the sacrifice of jesus human life and of his position today as heavenly king.

pronomono

Legacy, I'm not the one who said my GF had the talk. This one was all me.

Leaving_Quietly, It's easy to miss the point. I sure did until I really started reading it after your suggestion, viewing the context around the scripture instead of what we've been told. Us JWs aren't taught to be contextual readers. Unfortunately, I didn't record the talk, though.

Adamah, ....in time. I will quit when the time is right. Maybe the time will never be right, especially with friends and family in that I don't want to lose right now. Being subtle can go a long way given the time to develop. Advertisement has been doing this for years with subliminal messages. Have a hidden meaning or a subtle suggestion that makes people believe this is how they felt all along. Who says that we can't introduce this into the congregation and have a slow change from the bottom-out, or hopefully but less likely bottom-up.

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The Right Religion Demonstrates True Faith In Jesus Christ

by pronomono in

the week of december 9th, i have the talk "the right religion demonstrates true faith in jesus christ" base on the reasoning book rs p329.

the following is the suggested material.. istruefaithinjesuschristbeingdemonstrated?

this involves appreciation of the value of the sacrifice of jesus human life and of his position today as heavenly king.

pronomono

Thanks everyone. My talk went great. I was really nervous knowing that I wasn't giving the talk they expected to hear about faith being tied to works of preaching. I was really ready to just tell them I'm not giving the talk because I couldn't think of an angle that would be beneficial to the congregation that was in harmony with TTATT. Thanks to you all, I nailed it, and the School Overseer even said it was great and that he was having to nitpick to find something to counsel me on.

I tried combining all of your suggestions but came out with a 10 minute talk instead of 5. So I had to condense it. I focused faith being placed not in the name of Jesus but in the person that name identifies and how the primary component or work of faith is love, as intructed by Christ's commandments, that love was the foundation for all other works, such as works of loyalty to Jesus. As suggested by Leaving_Quietly, I applied the entire chapter of James 2 on works to love and the importance it plays on our faith, using the examples of Abraham and Rahab with the love and faith they showed to Jehovah.

And the ultimate win of the talk is that I didn't use preaching once as a work. I imagine that many of the brothers and sisters had never heard this explanation of James 2. I know I haven't. So hopefully a contextual explanation will open some of their minds just a little.

Thanks Leaving_Quietly and everyone else for helping me get through this without wussing out and being able to provide something beneficial to the congregation at the same time. I may have to come to you all again later as other topics come along so that I can subtly help preach TTATT around JW doctrine to get the congregation to start thinking.