Posts by eyeuse2badub

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A question for those who left due to ill treatment and abuse from the WT and its cronies

by LucidChimp in

i'm glad that i had biblical doubts - which led me in turn to ttatt.

happified in fact.. for those of you who escaped the wt because of abuse or malice on the part of people in your congregations: are you glad?

(obviously not glad for the abuse itself).

eyeuse2badub

All JW's are abused by the WTBTS. If we have been ill-treated or abused by 'people' in the org, it's because of the way the 'people' were trained or conditioned by the WTBTS. We have all been mentally manipulated and 'dumbed down' for decades. Being kept in constant fear of the big A and the constant guilt of not doing enough. We have been intellectually insulted with the WTBTS's screwy explainations and interpretations. We have been placed in danger due to their stupid medical restrictions. But---we have allowed ourselves to be in this position. so now is the time to get the hell out.

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Is their a table/list comparing what the WT & Awake magazines print that differs from their bound volumes ?

by smiddy in

i have seen quotations from time to time that says the wt & awake magazines have been changed when the bound volumes come out , has anybody ever been able to list these changes ?

and make a comparison .?

to me this is quite deceptive , like speaking out of both sides of your mouth .if you pick them up on one thing then they quote something different , and have the printed page to prove it.surely they need to be nailed down on this.. smiddy.

eyeuse2badub

We can all be thankful for the internet and the ability to 'go back' and research to see the 'slight of hand' the the WTBTS has used on us for decades. Since the internet they can't hide their 'stuff' anymore. So much has been exposed via sites such as this and I am very thankful to see ttatt.

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YOU WILL NEVER SEE THESE ACTS EVER MENTIONED IN A WATCHTOWER PUBLICATION

by steve2 in

faking of hours in field service or dragging service time out by making coffee stops or driving for hours "between" household contacts are never frowned upon, let alone mentioned, in the publications.

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yet, in each congregation of jehovah's witnesses, to one degree or another, faking hours, padding time out with coffee stops and long journeys between opportunities to "witness" are endemic practices..

eyeuse2badub

My wife's best friend is a 'pioneer' and they go in 'service' together often. (I have not been out in 'service' for years.) Just the other day I asked her how her field service day went. She replied that there were not many people at home so they made RV's. I asked her how much ACTUAL/REAL time was spent preaching and/or teaching during the hours they spent in 'service'.

My point of course was that JW's may spend hours going from d2d, all the while visiting and socializing, but in reality only minutes in actually preaching or talking about God and Christ. A sad waste of time!

eyeuse2badub

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How the Watchtower Society Views Women

by daringhart13 in

hey gang,.....i continue to write as thoughts come to me.

i would love to hear how the ladies here feel about my observations on how the wtbs views/treats women.. new article here: http://darrinhart.hubpages.com/hub/gods-view-of-women-according-to-the-watchtower-bible-tract-society.

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eyeuse2badub

Freddy Franz didn't like women so that's why dubs have the attitude they have toward women. To be seen but not heard. Do all the crap work so the men can shine. Yep it's the JW way. Sad but true.

eyeuse2badub

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YOU WILL NEVER SEE THESE ACTS EVER MENTIONED IN A WATCHTOWER PUBLICATION

by steve2 in

faking of hours in field service or dragging service time out by making coffee stops or driving for hours "between" household contacts are never frowned upon, let alone mentioned, in the publications.

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yet, in each congregation of jehovah's witnesses, to one degree or another, faking hours, padding time out with coffee stops and long journeys between opportunities to "witness" are endemic practices..

eyeuse2badub

"Making your time" is the most important thing to pioneers. All of them have creative ways to 'count time'. The 'pioneer shuffle' was one of my favorites. At the end of the service year the big buzz among pioneers is; "Did you make your time?".

eyeuse2badub

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Do you miss the sense of superiority?

by Diest in

jw
friends

this is and odd topic but there is a part of me that really misses feeling that i knew more about the world than 99.9% of the people.

i spent so many years in school being the odd person because of religion.

i embraced it to some extent.

eyeuse2badub

If a false sense of security/superiority is better than no sense of security/superiority then I would answer yes to your question.

However, I have found it much more comforting and intellectually rewarding to have; questions that cannot be answered as opposed to answers that cannot be questioned.

eyeuse2badub

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John 7:53-8:11 - taken out of the new bible

by cognac in

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friends

what is the proof it should be there?.

i've brought up to jws that revelation says not to take anything out or you will get the second death.. but they are ok with it because they compare it to not using the book of thomas, mary, etc.. what would you say to that?.

eyeuse2badub

'Let's change or omit whatever doesn't fit cause the rank and file will not care enough to say anything'.

When the next updated and revised NWT comes out, the words at 1 John 4:8 will also be revised to say "God is organization".

eyeuse2badub

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We are in God's "image" but God's morality is repugnant

by yadda yadda 2 in

the bible says in genesis that god made human beings in his "image".. this means that christians believe human beings were made with certain attributes that they share with god.

attributes such as intelligence, creativity, an appreciation of beauty, and sharing a similar set of cardinal moral and spiritual values around love, justice, mercy, etc.. this linked article explains it from a christian perspective more fully.http://www.relevantmagazine.com/god/deeper-walk/features/23549-qmade-in-the-image-of-godq.

and yet....we find in the old testament that god performs or endorses the most morally repugnant acts, such as ethnic cleansing, killing infants and children, causing famines and plagues, drowning the entire human population except eight persons, etc, etc - all actions that any reasonable and objectively sane person naturally finds morally incomprehensible, disgusting, evil.. this article here outlines some of the actions described in the ot that any normal, sane person would naturally find morally abhorrent:http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/raymond_bradley/moral.html.

eyeuse2badub

Absolutely impossible to reconcile the JHWH God of the OT with "God is Love" in 1 John 4:8 even in JWdom.

eyeuse2badub

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Is everything we do choice?

by uriah in

jw
friends

when you listen to people talking about this and that; a situation they are in, how awful it is etc., i get to thinking, well why don't you change it then.

if you suggest that to them they come up with a lot of excuses as to why they remain as they are.

they may get really angry with you saying 'are you mad?

eyeuse2badub

Correction to my stupid spelling. Please excuse brainfart.

Of course everything we do is a choice either conscience conscious or unconscience unconscious choice. Why did God give us the ability to choose? Wouldn't the world be a better place if we could only do good? Why was bad ever provided as a choice? Was God so petty that he wasn't sure that what HE created was perfect?

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Is everything we do choice?

by uriah in

jw
friends

when you listen to people talking about this and that; a situation they are in, how awful it is etc., i get to thinking, well why don't you change it then.

if you suggest that to them they come up with a lot of excuses as to why they remain as they are.

they may get really angry with you saying 'are you mad?

eyeuse2badub

Of course everything we do is a choice either conscience or unconscience choice. Why did God give us the ability to choose? Wouldn't the world be a better place if we could only do good? Why was bad ever provided as a choice? Was God so petty that he wasn't sure that what HE created was perfect?

eyeuse2badub